Should illegal immigrants have rights in the US? - Page 8

*HolderOfTheDarkChalice* · May 31, 2007, 11:19 AM

i see like this since america was established ever person from
another country has came here and learned out languors became
a citizen and became a useful part of our country all of a sudden Mexicans
come and cross our borders illegally and everyone is like OH NO LETS MAKE IT
EASY ON THEM SO THEY DONT HAVE TO TRY AND BETTER THEM SELVES
THE RIGHT WAY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE THAT HAS CAME TO THE US.

this is a joke because asian africans,palistines, you name it they come hear to learn our
language out way of making a living and do it legally no one complains at all , but let a
Mexican do it the wrong way and complain about it everyone gets pissed .

that's throwing everything all those other people from others country that came here
right out the window and i find that very sickning because the spanish comunity gets it
easy while everyone else that come here from another contry get shafted when the mis
a question on a test or what ever it is they take.

if anything the spanish comunty should be ashamed of this since there
making the other country look stupid by not just comming over by sneaking in
its just stupid. and you can harp all you want about right for them but unless
they go about the right way like other imgrent i could careless how bad thay have
it because i see it a zero tolrence because its fruiltess.

Inuruto · May 31, 2007, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomik_sprout

What's your point?? I'm not hatin' on anyone, nor am I persecuting anyone. I never said that Mexicans can't be here, and I never said that they shouldn't either. I said that people should go about doin' things the right way. I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea of people just wandering in to our country without being proccessed first. And what does your McMexican workin' as a computer consultant have to do with this beside the fact that he's illegal??

What you don't like is change..? I'm not saying let every immigrant come in this country & settle in... I am saying give them a better chance... You think if the chances where more fair & better that we would have so many illegal immigrants... All ppl in this world want to do is better themselves, so what makes Mexicans any different... Don't you have "Americans" robbing, stealing, & killing just to put food on the table & make ends meet... Isn't what they are doin "illegal" & yes we have jail/prison, but not every1 gets caught... Same thing with illegal immigrants, but they just crossed a border to make ends meet...

Here's an idea: Go around and ask a bunch of random people--regardless of thier ethnic background--and ask the same question that started this thread. I can guarantee you that you will hear just about the same answer from almost each person. The same answer that has been posted by almost everyone who's participated in this thread. It's not just me that thinks that this country has immigration rules for a reason.

Thanks for the idea, but heres another one why don't you go around & ask the same ppl of Americans & legal immigrants... Why does America invade other countries w/out permission they (not knowing what we really are their for... of course it has something to benefit the government) justify their cause, but when other foreigners come to the US (to better their lives for family & themselves) their cause isn't good enough & they have to get permission & wait until their kids have kids just to get processed "legal"...? Then lets see who really are immigrants...

And leave the white folk alone, man! Them takin' slaves and all that crap has been over for a long time. Almost 400 years or some crap like that. The only thing that I don't like about this country is the person who runs it. Everything else is all gravy. So if you're gonna use my thread to bash on white people, I suggest you go find yourself a nice racist fourm somewhere, kiddo.

No we don't just leave it alone... I'm not saying don't forgive, but never forget!!! Do we forget our forefathers & where we came from..? I think what he was trying to say is that "American" came to this country "illegally" if you so put it, but all we did was justify our cause... And brought the blacks to do the dirty work, but with no rights, no justice, & basically had to fight for a change... Something that the immigration laws needs!!!

And if you think this country is "all gravy" if you so put it... Then I know we are in trouble trying to opinionate ourselves to you... Cause this country is far from gravy train if you ask me as an "American"...

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomik_sprout

But if you can't respect the rules, why should you be able to stay here legally?

Good point!!! If that's the case why do we have jails/prison..? Why they are so full..? Why not we just kill the really really bad ones & ship the not so bad ones away to a foreign country & let them fight in Iraq & stuff like that... They are illegal "Americans" & I feel that they shouldn't stay here... That's just me!!!

*atomik_sprout* · Jun 01, 2007, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inuruto

No we don't just leave it alone... I'm not saying don't forgive, but never forget!!! Do we forget our forefathers & where we came from..? I think what he was trying to say is that "American" came to this country "illegally" if you so put it, but all we did was justify our cause... And brought the blacks to do the dirty work, but with no rights, no justice, & basically had to fight for a change... Something that the immigration laws needs!!!

And if you think this country is "all gravy" if you so put it... Then I know we are in trouble trying to opinionate ourselves to you... Cause this country is far from gravy train if you ask me as an "American"...

Good point!!! If that's the case why do we have jails/prison..? Why they are so full..? Why not we just kill the really really bad ones & ship the not so bad ones away to a foreign country & let them fight in Iraq & stuff like that... They are illegal "Americans" & I feel that they shouldn't stay here... That's just me!!!

Okay, first of all: You must've done somethin' to my poste that you "quoted" me with, because there's bits and pieces that I did NOT write. (it's not a lot, just specks; if I'm wrong, sue me.) Anywho, I say this once again: LEAVE THE WHITE MAN ALONE! We're not talking about slavery, we're talking about illegal immigrants!!! YES! The British came here and pretty much conqured the land, and YES they did take slaves. But that has nothing to do with what we're discussing. Okay? Thank you... OMG.

When I said it's all gravy, I meant that I don't mind the country as it is now. The only issues with this country I have are with the way it's run and the crime rate that never decreases. So if you fear for our country's future or safety because I don't have a problem with living here, then I fear for our country when people are basing opinions from yours. At least I can deal with the past and not bring it up in a conversation that has nothing to do with it... Now on the the subject at hand:

Illegals are just that... ILLEGAL!! Deport them. (man I really should've quoted holder of the dark chalice on this one, 'cause he proves an awesome point) I don't care what nationality they are, but if they're here illigetimately, they don't belong here. Plain and simple. I don't believe in the death sentence, so your jail question is null and void. I think that killing people who are imprisioned makes you just as bad as the killer. Let them die and rot in jail of natural causes--and once again, you've made me divert from the friggin' point.

No person who comes here illegally--I don't care if you CLAIM you're trying to better yourself--deserves to live here. It gives other immigrants who came here legit a bad name. Do you understand?

!The GunGrave of Trigun · Jun 21, 2007, 08:21 PM

No they should come here pass what they need not run across a border i mean most of them use food stamps so where having to pay for them they bring us down your schools become dumber take are jobs no they should not be in this country.

gren · Jun 21, 2007, 08:23 PM

Once again, please do not post in threads that have been inactive for more than 14 days.

Closing.

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