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Old Aug 14, 2006, 06:58 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: should they ban violent and sexual realted games?

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sorry but you are soooo wrong. kidsget violent by the real life thats true but video games play a role. all tyhese wrestling games are having kids interpret the moves they see and grand theft auto isnt better. my brother is 8 and he is becoming like the thugs in grand theft because of the game. so im sorry but your post is soo wrong
Your brother isn't a good example. Why the hell is he playing GTA at age 8 in the first place. That's bad parenting. No, that's terrible parenting. That's like forcing my kids to watch Wonder Showzen. It's sheer insanity and stupidity.

The funny thing about studies is that in a couple years, there will be another study that will prove the previous study wrong.
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Old Aug 14, 2006, 06:59 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Your brother isn't a good example. Why the hell is he playing GTA at age 8 in the first place. That's bad parenting. No, that's terrible parenting. That's like forcing my kids to watch Wonder Showzen. It's sheer insanity and stupidity.
i agree 200% there innerhell.
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Old Aug 14, 2006, 07:00 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Your brother isn't a good example. Why the hell is he playing GTA at age 8 in the first place. That's bad parenting. No, that's terrible parenting. That's like forcing my kids to watch Wonder Showzen. It's sheer insanity and stupidity.
ok i respect your opinion but my parents didnt buy the game, he played it at my cousind house. so my parents are trying to relieve him of that so dont even say that. ny parents didnt even know he played it until 3 weeks ago so my parents arent terrible at their job so yea you need to cool it. and i have proof at the top so you should read it.
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Old Aug 14, 2006, 07:02 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Re: should they ban violent and sexual realted games?

we did, and testing druged and drunk college students ain't crap.

people who change THAT obviously are weak willed. no1 should ALLOW a game to affect their thinking or tendancies, i know i don't.
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Old Aug 14, 2006, 07:13 PM   #38 (permalink)
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ok i respect your opinion but my parents didnt buy the game, he played it at my cousind house. so my parents are trying to relieve him of that so dont even say that. ny parents didnt even know he played it until 3 weeks ago so my parents arent terrible at their job so yea you need to cool it. and i have proof at the top so you should read it.
I apologize for my early accusation. My earlier post might not fit for your situation, but it works for other people with the right state of mind. Many people use violent video games as a stress reliever to sate their violent tendencies. Those that can't seem to control their violent tendencies are most likely that way because of exposure to violence at a young age or at a long duration of time. Seeing violent acts in such a manner can either warp a person's mind or desensitize it.

As for that study, the only accurate way of proving something like this is to have people from different backgrounds. There are different kind of gamers out there. There are the really competitive gamers that will play a lot and mess with their opponents. Shooting sadistically, teabagging, immature shenanigans of that nature. These people tend to use 1337 a lot and are sometimes annoying. There are the serious gamers that ignore immature things like that and just play for the sheer joy of it. There are gamers that are pure sadists and just like to see blood spill and bodies get hacked or shot at. These people should either be medicated or institutionalized.

Doing a study on a random group of college students does not work at all. Dong a study on a random group of college students with a delinquent history makes things pointless.
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Old Aug 14, 2006, 07:14 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Re: should they ban violent and sexual realted games?

Ha this topic made me laugh so hard.It really did.

Listen and listen good.Theres ages on the games for a reason.If the kid plays it someone gave it to them or someone isint doing their job right *Looks at parents*
If a game is 18's and a 8 year old gets their hands on it then its hardly their fault.And if someone is infulenced by a violent game then they are already messed up in the head.Someone wont go out and murder someone due to a game...a game might have put them over the edge but nothing woorse then a violent film or biolent lyrics would.

And anyway ive been playing violent games since i was 8.I always played them with my brother who always made sure i knew the diffrences of games and RL.Theres nothing wrong with that.Im a perfectly normal person and all the gaems are is fun.The only thing you have to do is to make sure the kid knows the diffrence between fiction and reality and youll be fine.Theres worse on the sox o'clock news now with all hte war,violence and death that does be on now.

Now all you anti game zealots go join Jack Thompson on the front line of Gods army as all you want is a full censhopship.If you dont like violent games then(suprise suprise) you dont have to play them.Dont ruin every elses enjoyment
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Re: should they ban violent and sexual realted games?

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I apologize for my early accusation. My earlier post might not fit for your situation, but it works for other people with the right state of mind. Many people use violent video games as a stress reliever to sate their violent tendencies. Those that can't seem to control their violent tendencies are most likely that way because of exposure to violence at a young age or at a long duration of time. Seeing violent acts in such a manner can either warp a person's mind or desensitize it.

As for that study, the only accurate way of proving something like this is to have people from different backgrounds. There are different kind of gamers out there. There are the really competitive gamers that will play a lot and mess with their opponents. Shooting sadistically, teabagging, immature shenanigans of that nature. These people tend to use 1337 a lot and are sometimes annoying. There are the serious gamers that ignore immature things like that and just play for the sheer joy of it. There are gamers that are pure sadists and just like to see blood spill and bodies get hacked or shot at. These people should either be medicated or institutionalized.

Doing a study on a random group of college students does not work at all.
is quite fine. dont worr about it at all
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Old Aug 14, 2006, 08:27 PM   #41 (permalink)
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n it isnt. this generation is the worst. young girls as young as 11 are having kids
Uh, according to FBI records, teen violence is down. According to other official records (can't remember off the top of my head) teen pregnancy is down.

Obviously, you can't remember the 80's and early 90's. Ohoho, but I do. This is not the worst generation of youth, not even close. The highest spike of teen pregnancy and violence was over 30 years ago, when there was no 'violent/sexual music' music, at least not by today's standards, and there were no video games, period.

There are games that small children should not play. However, the average gamer is 27 years old, and all of these 'horrible, inappropriate' games have ratings and a listing on the back of why they're rated that way. I'll be damned if I let someone else's parents tell me what I can and can't enjoy.

Oh, and it's fahrenheit 451, not 181. It's the temperature at which paper burns. It's a wonderful book written by Ray Bradburry. If you haven't read it, do yourself a favor and go pick it up.
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Read a summary of 2005 research that found more mixed results.

Research published in 2000 demonstrates that playing violent video games can increase a person's aggressive thoughts, feelings, and behavior. Two studies by psychologists Craig Anderson and Karen Dill published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology looked at the effects of violent video games in the lab and in real life. This powerful combination of two studies presents persuasive evidence that violent video games do indeed increase aggression in some players.

Study 1: Video Game Violence in the Real World

In the first study the authors surveyed college students concerning their use of video games and their reported aggressive delinquent behaviors in the past. They also measured the personality trait of aggressiveness to see how that related to the other variables. Students who had played more aggressive video games had also engaged in more aggressive delinquent behavior. Trait aggressiveness made this relationship even stronger. The students who spent the most total time playing video games had the lowest academic grades in college.

Study 2: Video Game Violence in the Lab

The second study by the authors looked at the effects of actual video game violence. Subjects were college students who played either a violent video game (Wolfenstein 3D) or a non-violent game (Myst). These games had been chosen in a pilot study because they differed only in the degree of violence in the game and not on the amount of physiological arousal that they produced. Following video game play the students took some tests and participated in a "Competitive reaction time task" where they were told that they were playing against another student. They were told that they could blast the other student with a noise if they won, and that they could vary the intensity and duration of the blast.

Students in both groups blasted their opponent longer and louder following trials when they had lost and their opponent had just blasted them. Students who had played Wolfenstein 3D blasted their opponent longer and louder on such trials than students who had played Myst. Female students blasted their opponents longer and louder on all trials than male students.

The authors final conclusions are best stated by quoting the article. They state:

The present research demonstrated that in both a correlational investigation using self-reports of real-world aggressive behaviors and an experimental investigation using a standard, objective laboratory measure of aggression, violent video game play was positively related to increases in aggressive behavior. In the laboratory, college students who played a violent video game behaved more aggressively toward an opponent than did students who had played a nonviolent video game. Outside the laboratory, students who reported playing more violent video games over a period of years also engaged in more aggressive behavior in their own lives. Both types of studies–correlational—real delinquent behaviors and experimental—laboratory aggressive behaviors have their strengths and weaknesses. The convergence of findings across such disparate methods lends considerable strength to the main hypothesis that exposure to violent video games can increase aggressive behavior. (Anderson & Dill, 2000)

The authors note that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold enjoyed playing violent video games, and they speculate that these games played a role in their violent acts at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado in April of 1999. Eric Harris had actually modified a version of the game Doom and placed it on his Website. In his version there were two shooters, extra weapons, and the other people in the game couldn't shoot back. He and Klebold essentially acted-out their version of Doom on innocent classmates.

These studies should be of particular concern to parents of teenagers. Playing violent video games may not be the innocent activity that many parents think it is. Based on this new evidence I recommend that parents closely monitor their teenagers' video game play. Violent video game play should be limited. Maybe the next school shooting can be prevented.

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Re: should they ban violent and sexual realted games?

they shouldnt ban them...
I mean ppl buy games to have fun, to leave all their stress and to do what in real life u wouldnt be able to do.... now with all the games I think ppl would be more likely to tho those kind of stuff in reall life....
now the thing is how lil kids get the games.... if ppl dont want their kids to play those games..... simply dont give them the game..... is that too hard?
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Yeah, parents do need to pay more attention,society needs to pay attention as well. It feels like everybody has a "personal responsibility" problem these days. I think ppl "give a fxck less" more than ever. You know it. Cynicism is at an all-time high. I think it is because ignorance is too dangerous nowadays.Ppl are getting more paranoid all the time.........It's spirit killing.

Anyways on the whole video game ban subject, it's simple..........Hell Naw!! Freedom of Speech, Baby!! And if ppl feel strong enough about it, no one can stop it! They can regulate and pass laws......But they can't truly stop it!! As long as someone wants to play a violent, sexual video game, they are gonna fxckin do it!!
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