Should They Bring Back Hanging? - Page 2

cantsenditback · Feb 29, 2008, 03:25 PM

No we should not, then we be the killers of the killers, what image are we setting for the childrens in the future, thats is ok to kill the people who has killed in the past? I say we should only do this if the crime a person did was massive like mass murder or a drug lord, something like that or death by firearms

*dark angel swordsman* · Feb 29, 2008, 05:28 PM

I say it depends entirely on the crime.
For example, murder should result in either a hanging or just getting shot in a prison or something. Either way the person dies.
My reason behind this is the saying "an eye for an eye" you kill somebody on purpose, you get killed in return.
For petty crimes, such as stealing or something I believe that the punishments today would suffice.

!Mini Dev · Mar 02, 2008, 06:48 AM

Lots of mixed opinions and i respect them all but gwenbie yours i have to disagree with at the end, prison time or rotting in jail are two diffrent things, Prison time these days is apprantley easy if you are strong and have a gang it's fine if you weak yes it's hard. But apprantley it's easy so there not rotting but ENJOYING THERE SELVES!!

_gwenibe_ · Mar 02, 2008, 12:34 PM

Yeah and as I've already said in my last post I agree with you - I'm well aware of how easy some prisoners get it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by _gwenibe_

I'm all for harsher conditions for the more serious crimes though. Death just seems like an easy way out doesn't it? Well compared to rotting in a jail for life that is. A waste of money? not if conditions in there a made worse.

We don't need capital punishment - just harsher conditions in jails. Then again, unless we've been in jail will we really know how it is like?

But what you didn't address is what happens if we get innocent people killed? Bring them back to life xD

*Descended From Darkness* · Mar 02, 2008, 02:27 PM

No we shouldn't bring hangings back. It's bad enough that our criminal justice system is based on the concept revenge. Ie. If you kill someone you're more than likely going to get the death penalty (depending on which state you're in. If you're in Texas you will get the death penalty unless you're Andrea Yates).

I know our prisons are over-crowding but that doesn't mean you need to bring back something as archaic as hanging. Or some new technology that can kill others. Our prisons are already in a sad state and the conditions there are close to be considered inhuman. Prisoners are forced to stay there and the chances of a rehabilitated and actually being able to survive in our society are slim. Even those who are deemed innocent like Ron Williamson and Dennis Fritz, and are later exonerated it is hard to survive in the real world.

What we need are reforms. Not more problems. Hangings aren't going to bring solutions only more problems..

*atomik_sprout* · Mar 03, 2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _gwenibe_

Yeah and as I've already said in my last post I agree with you - I'm well aware of how easy some prisoners get it.

We don't need capital punishment - just harsher conditions in jails. Then again, unless we've been in jail will we really know how it is like?

But what you didn't address is what happens if we get innocent people killed? Bring them back to life xD

From the stories I read, documentaries I watch and from what I see on the street; more capital punishment equals less crime. If you're afraid of being hung, injected with some crap that'll kill your ass faster than you can say "Get me the f*ck outta here!", or elecricuted; etc, more than likely, you'll want to walk a straighter path. In my opinion, if the punishment is more severe, the criminals who have no sense of right, wrong or consideration to others will be prime examples of what to do and not to do.

Harsher jail sentences don't fix anything. Most people aren't afraid of goin' to jail, but I'm willin' to bet they're afraid of death row--if there is one anywhere anymore. I've known cats who were so used to being in jail, they'd do somethin' to go back every summer! Jail is nothing to most hardened criminals. Death is everything to everybody.

Criminals learn from other criminals, just as childrend learn from other children. When I was a kid, if I seen another kid gettin' a whoopin' for something that I'd probably do, I knew not to do that thing, or I'll face an ass-whoopin' of equal or greater value. If criminals are being punished at a more severe level, than I believe the crime rate will drop.

*dark1angel* · Mar 03, 2008, 01:46 PM

As the previous post i first answer that this Punishment might be a problem solver, due to the fact that Penitentiary Prison have been trying all different kinds of solutions to punish any kind of law breaker around the States.
In my opinion this hanging may result in having less results of murderers causing any more problems in the near future.

*Descended From Darkness* · Mar 03, 2008, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomik_sprout

From the stories I read, documentaries I watch and from what I see on the street; more capital punishment equals less crime. If you're afraid of being hung, injected with some crap that'll kill your ass faster than you can say "Get me the f*ck outta here!", or elecricuted; etc, more than likely, you'll want to walk a straighter path. In my opinion, if the punishment is more severe, the criminals who have no sense of right, wrong or consideration to others will be prime examples of what to do and not to do.

Harsher jail sentences don't fix anything. Most people aren't afraid of goin' to jail, but I'm willin' to bet they're afraid of death row--if there is one anywhere anymore. I've known cats who were so used to being in jail, they'd do somethin' to go back every summer! Jail is nothing to most hardened criminals. Death is everything to everybody.

Criminals learn from other criminals, just as childrend learn from other children. When I was a kid, if I seen another kid gettin' a whoopin' for something that I'd probably do, I knew not to do that thing, or I'll face an ass-whoopin' of equal or greater value. If criminals are being punished at a more severe level, than I believe the crime rate will drop.

Unfourtuantly the death penalty isn't what's pushing back crime. Especially if its murder. When you're about to kill someone the chances of you actually thinking about the capitol punishment are very slim.

Crime is a factor however in economically depreived parts of cities, specifically the inner cities. The inner cities used to be full of economic life until all the major factories moved elsewhere. Now its a haven for crime and illict acts. If you truly want to stop crime figure out some why to breathe economic life back into the ghettos. If there is stable economic life then there will be hardly any crime.

Those who steal, who are prostitutes, those who deal drugs have a reason as to why they're doing. It's to feed their kids and try their best survive. Sure it may not be something that you pretty much don't condone but once you live in poverty there really isn't much you can do.

*atomik_sprout* · Mar 03, 2008, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Descended From Darkness

Unfourtuantly the death penalty isn't what's pushing back crime. Especially if its murder. When you're about to kill someone the chances of you actually thinking about the capitol punishment are very slim.

Crime is a factor however in economically depreived parts of cities, specifically the inner cities. The inner cities used to be full of economic life until all the major factories moved elsewhere. Now its a haven for crime and illict acts. If you truly want to stop crime figure out some why to breathe economic life back into the ghettos. If there is stable economic life then there will be hardly any crime.

Those who steal, who are prostitutes, those who deal drugs have a reason as to why they're doing. It's to feed their kids and try their best survive. Sure it may not be something that you pretty much don't condone but once you live in poverty there really isn't much you can do.

I quote my step-mother--who is black--when I say, "You can't give n*ggas anything nice! They just f*ck sh*t up even more!" The inner cities are gonna have crime with our without money; which is why I say "yes" to capital punishment! Money doesn't fix anything. In fact, money is the main reason we have so many problems today! Murder, assault, robbery, breaking and entering.... In most cases--at least here in MN--those crimes are based on what?? That's right... MONEY! It's either that or drugs.

Either way you look at it, putting money in the pockets of criminals won't fix sh*t! Putting money in MY pocket so I can GTF out of the inner cities once and for all would fix a lot though, LOL.

I mean seriously though; which makes more sense: Givin' a bunch of wild ass, good for nothin', ticks and criminals a handful of cash and saying, "Please tone it down a notch," or just lockin' up and killin' off all the people who are causing us so much trouble? Which would prove to be a greater example to the rest of us? If you were a criminal who's probably robbed, beaten and killed dozens of people, would you quit your life of crime from being handed some loot, or would you quit if your criminal friend just got hung for doin' the same stupid sh*t you were doin'?

From my experiences in the past, from my friends who've also been in my shoes and judging from what I hear all these "thugs" talk about in public (what dumbasses!!!), all money is gonna do is make matters worse. "Yo, when I get the money, I'm gonna buy me a gun and I'ma shoot a n*gga!"

_gwenibe_ · Mar 03, 2008, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomik_sprout

From the stories I read, documentaries I watch and from what I see on the street; more capital punishment equals less crime. If you're afraid of being hung, injected with some crap that'll kill your ass faster than you can say "Get me the f*ck outta here!", or elecricuted; etc, more than likely, you'll want to walk a straighter path. In my opinion, if the punishment is more severe, the criminals who have no sense of right, wrong or consideration to others will be prime examples of what to do and not to do. Harsher jail sentences don't fix anything. Most people aren't afraid of goin' to jail, but I'm willin' to bet they're afraid of death row--if there is one anywhere anymore. I've known cats who were so used to being in jail, they'd do somethin' to go back every summer! Jail is nothing to most hardened criminals. Death is everything to everybody.
If criminals are being punished at a more severe level, than I believe the crime rate will drop.

and I agree some what, you can count on the fact that some crimes will be reduced if the death penalty was brought back.

But as I've said in previous posts, The sole reason why I'm against it, is because our justice systems are not perfect and that being said what is stopping a person from being wrongly accused of a serious crime being put to death for a crime he/she did not commit? it has happened in the past with and without the death penalty - in fact if my memory serves me right, a man just recently got compensated for being wrongly accused for a crime in Aust.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Descended From Darkness

Unfourtuantly the death penalty isn't what's pushing back crime. Especially if its murder. When you're about to kill someone the chances of you actually thinking about the capitol punishment are very slim.

Crime is a factor however in economically depreived parts of cities, specifically the inner cities. The inner cities used to be full of economic life until all the major factories moved elsewhere. Now its a haven for crime and illict acts. If you truly want to stop crime figure out some why to breathe economic life back into the ghettos. If there is stable economic life then there will be hardly any crime.

Those who steal, who are prostitutes, those who deal drugs have a reason as to why they're doing. It's to feed their kids and try their best survive. Sure it may not be something that you pretty much don't condone but once you live in poverty there really isn't much you can do.

agreed, take away the reason these people are turning towards crime in the first place helps big time. Might not help everyone - but who knows it might help fair few.

Scourge · Mar 03, 2008, 03:27 PM

When you hang some one you have to use certain type of rope and make sure its set properly at the proper height because if you do it wrong you could very well decapitate them and that would be messy. As for bring back hanging, I think we should.

Feb 29, 2008, 03:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
cantsenditback byakugan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France, Scotland, Ireland, Malaysia Posts: 669 Thanks: 7 Thanked 34 Times in 33 Posts Credits: 14,334	Re: Should They Bring Back Hanging? No we should not, then we be the killers of the killers, what image are we setting for the childrens in the future, thats is ok to kill the people who has killed in the past? I say we should only do this if the crime a person did was massive like mass murder or a drug lord, something like that or death by firearms __________________ This world is corrupt Save tonight and fight the break of dawn I am so alone, I got no one to talk to, please help me
Status: Offline

Feb 29, 2008, 05:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
dark angel swordsman God of Destruction Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,839 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Credits: 13,361	Re: Should They Bring Back Hanging? I say it depends entirely on the crime. For example, murder should result in either a hanging or just getting shot in a prison or something. Either way the person dies. My reason behind this is the saying "an eye for an eye" you kill somebody on purpose, you get killed in return. For petty crimes, such as stealing or something I believe that the punishments today would suffice. __________________ If you're lucky, I may give you a tiny sliver of my godliness.
Status: Offline

Mar 02, 2008, 06:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
!Mini Dev Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,117 Thanks: 41 Thanked 25 Times in 25 Posts Credits: -80	Re: Should They Bring Back Hanging? Lots of mixed opinions and i respect them all but gwenbie yours i have to disagree with at the end, prison time or rotting in jail are two diffrent things, Prison time these days is apprantley easy if you are strong and have a gang it's fine if you weak yes it's hard. But apprantley it's easy so there not rotting but ENJOYING THERE SELVES!!
Status: Offline

Mar 02, 2008, 02:27 PM	#16 (permalink)
Descended From Darkness Jigoku Shoujo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: somewhere far far away from here. Posts: 506 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Credits: 9,994	Re: Should They Bring Back Hanging? No we shouldn't bring hangings back. It's bad enough that our criminal justice system is based on the concept revenge. Ie. If you kill someone you're more than likely going to get the death penalty (depending on which state you're in. If you're in Texas you will get the death penalty unless you're Andrea Yates). I know our prisons are over-crowding but that doesn't mean you need to bring back something as archaic as hanging. Or some new technology that can kill others. Our prisons are already in a sad state and the conditions there are close to be considered inhuman. Prisoners are forced to stay there and the chances of a rehabilitated and actually being able to survive in our society are slim. Even those who are deemed innocent like Ron Williamson and Dennis Fritz, and are later exonerated it is hard to survive in the real world. What we need are reforms. Not more problems. Hangings aren't going to bring solutions only more problems.. __________________ Thanx zyta for the awesome set [ Rai's Gallery: Rai's myspace : Rai's Deviantart: Angelic Ruin:SpiritDetective
Status: Offline

Mar 03, 2008, 01:46 PM	#18 (permalink)
dark1angel Tournaments Won: 1 Bio-Engineered Human Race Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In a Purified Realm Of Lightness Posts: 673 Thanks: 84 Thanked 31 Times in 29 Posts Credits: 25,127	Re: Should They Bring Back Hanging? As the previous post i first answer that this Punishment might be a problem solver, due to the fact that Penitentiary Prison have been trying all different kinds of solutions to punish any kind of law breaker around the States. In my opinion this hanging may result in having less results of murderers causing any more problems in the near future. __________________ Getting away from conflicts can get you far, but also can get you into more chaos. \|アスタロス\|
Status: Offline

Welcome to AnimeOnline.net, your personal Anime Community!	Anime Online Rulez!

Mar 03, 2008, 03:27 PM	#22 (permalink)
Scourge Devoted Otaku Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 602 Thanks: 209 Thanked 85 Times in 73 Posts Credits: 42,760	Re: Should They Bring Back Hanging? When you hang some one you have to use certain type of rope and make sure its set properly at the proper height because if you do it wrong you could very well decapitate them and that would be messy. As for bring back hanging, I think we should.
Status: Offline

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Hanging Offense	Hold.Me.X.Thrill.Me	Poems	9	Apr 29, 2006 09:52 PM
should we bring our troops back?	hell-slayer	The Vault	45	Sep 27, 2005 04:05 PM
Guess who's back, back, back, back again, scsa20's back, back, tell a friend, friend	scsa20	The Vault	20	Aug 21, 2005 07:30 AM
Bring it on!!!	AnimeAficianado	The Vault	1	Jun 18, 2005 09:36 PM
Bring back the '3 thread' rule.	Zui Quan	The Vault	2	Apr 26, 2005 01:07 PM