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Old Mar 17, 2008, 06:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Should We Support China?

Grumble Grumble Grumble

And on a related piece of late breaking news...
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DENVER - Sticking with a stance its taken all along, the U.S. Olympic Committee reiterated Monday that an American boycott of the Beijing Olympics is completely out of the question.
U.S. Olympic committee against any boycott - Other sports - MSNBC.com
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Old Apr 09, 2008, 04:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Should We Support China?

Well, today is the torch run for San Francisco. I am at work right now so i'll probably have to wait till tonight to watch the news to see what went on. There will be the pro-tibet group and I heard there will also be pro-china groups at the torch run. One side of me want to see the two groups clash, but at the same time I really hope there's no riot and only a radical protest. I really don't want to see pro-tibet groups attacking a handicapped torch holder.
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Old Apr 09, 2008, 06:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Should We Support China?

Well the us gets most of there supplies there so yes and because they have great weapons and are very strong and there men are willing to die or do anything to defeat any country if it means bringing there country to victory but i think we should because right now they havent done anything to the us but untill they do we wont go agisnt them k.
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Old Apr 09, 2008, 06:27 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Should We Support China?

The torch run through Paris was a flatout disaster. They had to put out the flame at least twice.
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Old Apr 10, 2008, 10:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The torch run through Paris was a flatout disaster. They had to put out the flame at least twice.
I thought it was three times?

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Well, today is the torch run for San Francisco. I am at work right now so i'll probably have to wait till tonight to watch the news to see what went on. There will be the pro-tibet group and I heard there will also be pro-china groups at the torch run. One side of me want to see the two groups clash, but at the same time I really hope there's no riot and only a radical protest. I really don't want to see pro-tibet groups attacking a handicapped torch holder.
Apparently officials chose another route in secret. Absolutely nothing happened. Crafty crafty.
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Old Apr 10, 2008, 11:14 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Apparently officials chose another route in secret. Absolutely nothing happened. Crafty crafty.
Yeah haha, what a shame huh? Both parties have people that came from far places to cheer/protest. Now neither group got what the wanted.
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Old Apr 11, 2008, 02:58 AM   #18 (permalink)
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So China is currently on a rampage suppressing demonstrations in Tibet (which it currently occupies against the will of nearly the entireity of it's population)... China says 10 are dead ("burned to death"), informants are telling us it may be more like a hundred. It's hard to tell, since they have forbidden free press in the nation and have limited all travel to Tibet. Just a short time ago we recieved Chinese media reports that they have "thwarted terrorists" in another occupied region of the north... killing the group reponsible for a plot against the Olympics (a claim they haven't backed up or elaborated on at all). I'm not completely convinced those were "terrorists" at all...

They've closed Mount Everest to climbers in fear that "terrorists" will thwart the carrying of the torch to the top... (or are they just afraid demonstrators will ruin their photo op?)

China is currently occupying other nations, suppressing the free practice of all religions (including the esoteric Buddhism of Tibet which is the foundation of that nation's entire culture), driving all manner of wildlife extinct, producing enough pollution to affect the air and rain quality in neighbor nations, and regularly imprisons and executes any who criticise the government.

I am not impressed.

Why are we supporting this government? Should China been given the Olympics at all? Are they being given implicit support of the world in their current campaign to make China "appear" to be a peaceful, unified, North-Korea-esque utopian state? Will this really help China improve? Or are we giving them incentive to degenerate further?
To many of you in here, Tiber is part of China mainland since hundreds years ago and not because of the Chinese storming Tibet around 50 years ago. You need to learn more about Chinese history about Tibet.

As for this topic subject, do not mix sport with politics or other stuff including religion, skin colour. Sport is where all of us can gather together in deference of our skin colour, religion and race.

Talking about not supporting, should we just not support American who cleary still invade Iraq even today while it is clear Iraq is not part of America rather than not supporting China?
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Talking about not supporting, should we just not support American who cleary still invade Iraq even today while it is clear Iraq is not part of America rather than not supporting China?
The citizens of Iraq asked the US to invade and get rid of Saddam just like the citizens of Tibet asked China to come and kick their leaders asses and put them back in their 'paying taxes and homage to China' place and resisted all attempts by other countries to overthrow Chinese rule in Tibet. Now however they are asking them to leave. Situations change.
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Old Apr 11, 2008, 05:03 PM   #20 (permalink)
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The citizens of Iraq asked the US to invade and get rid of Saddam
You sure there will be peoples from a country who asked to be invaded?

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just like the citizens of Tibet asked China to come and kick their leaders asses and put them back in their 'paying taxes and homage to China' place and resisted all attempts by other countries to overthrow Chinese rule in Tibet. Now however they are asking them to leave. Situations change.
You are saying the Tibetan want to kick out Dalai lama out from Tibet while they still respect Dalai Lama authority even he is on exile in India?

You really need to learn history or you just finding excuses to make the American invasion into Iraq [ still occured even today ] as a right thing.
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You sure there will be peoples from a country who asked to be invaded?
Take the time to read the interviews of the Iraqi refugees that were leaving in droves for fear of their lives in the years leading up to it.


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You are saying the Tibetan want to kick out Dalai lama out from Tibet while they still respect Dalai Lama authority even he is on exile in India?

You really need to learn history
Wanted, as I said "situations change". I know exactly what I am talking about, take your time to learn about the situation in Tibet previous to their being subjugated by China a little yourself.
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Old Apr 11, 2008, 05:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Take the time to read the interviews of the Iraqi refugees that were leaving in droves for fear of their lives in the years leading up to it.
So when 100 or 1000 peoples asking you to attack a country then you will attack them while over 99,9% of the other peoples there not asking you?

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Wanted, as I said "situations change". I know exactly what I am talking about, take your time to learn about the situation in Tibet previous to their being subjugated by China a little yourself.
Tibetan supreme leader are Dalai Lama since long ago before even China storming Tibet around 50 years ago. Situation change? not at all since long ago Dalai Lama is respected and placed as the supreme commander of Tibetan.

It is really amusingme how you keep on defending your lies
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