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Old Mar 27, 2006, 03:56 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: A simple yet complex question....

but you know only half of us are actually using physics. the other half are thinking from thier point of view.

you know asteriods in space dont make any noises at all. neither does the cool fighters in starwars. there is no atmosphere for sound to travel. but what holds true is that sound frequencies are released(energy cannot be destroyed, for whatever hes called law of whatever). but you imagine them thier anyway. some startrek fans remmeber the noise darthvadars worldship made when it exploded right?

hope you got the first part. anyway, these frequencies will soon later be picked up by deepspace radar. even though it may be destorted it can be pin-pointed from one location.(gee, i wonder how radar and sonar works?)
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Old Apr 10, 2006, 09:08 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: A simple yet complex question....

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If a tree falls in the woods and nobody was around to here it does it still make a sound?
well it's still gonna make a sound except no one will hear it cuz no one is there.
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Old Apr 10, 2006, 09:45 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Re: A simple yet complex question....

Generally speaking...Who said a sound is not a sound if it isn't heard?

A deaf guy by himself can scream and not hear anything, yet there is a sound made.
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Old Apr 10, 2006, 09:49 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Re: A simple yet complex question....

Yes and no.
Nobody is right unless you vote on it and the president said so (Just kidding!!)

I think they said this on the simpson but I forgot what they said.
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Old Apr 11, 2006, 02:10 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Re: A simple yet complex question....

Logic would say yes but there is nobody there to be hear it. Thus, to the human ears we cant hear it. I think the answer is Yes and No.
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Old Apr 11, 2006, 02:17 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Re: A simple yet complex question....

A tree that falls in the woods, obviously makes a sound. The question itself is complex coz humans interpret sound usin our sense, thats how we know it exists. However, sound waves r still produced as a result of the fallen tree....
It brings us bck to those topics of how do u know something exists, if u arent there to hear, see or feel it. I'm not goin to get into that whole "does god exist" topic again. I'll leave it at that.
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Old Apr 11, 2006, 02:20 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Re: A simple yet complex question....

A sound is not limited to human perception, it's a real physical event which influences everything around it. So yes, it does produce sound. This "question" is perhaps too trivial.
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Old Apr 14, 2006, 04:17 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Re: A simple yet complex question....

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Ok i was asked this ealier today, and it both interested and confused me and i couldnt find an answer and i dont know weather its been done before or not but i looked for it and couldnt find it so here we go! (its actually rather debatable)

If a tree falls in the woods and nobody was around to here it does it still make a sound?

something to think about eh?

this always used to go round my high school to see what people thought of it.

I think that the answer is no because if no one is there to hear then ther is no sound. So how can you tell if its made a sound when no one hears??????????

But it still doesn't mean its making a sound. There are many animals out there who are sensative to other certains sounds. So its a yes...
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Old Apr 15, 2006, 10:17 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Re: A simple yet complex question....

*sigh* ok a third approach
ill try to demonstrate common sense.

a scientist is using the scientific method to examine a frog

on day one he puts the frog on the table and claps his hands. the frog jumps

next day he cuts off the frogs arms. claps his hands. the frog jumps.

next day he cuts off the other arm. claps his hands. the frog jumps agian.

next day he cuts off the frogs leg. claps his hands. the frog jumps agian.

next day he cuts off the other leg. claps his hand. but amazingly the frog would not jump. he concludes that the frog couldnt jump because by cutting off limbs makes the frog deaf.

this is true. we cannot prove it wrong. however, we all know better.

to apply this to the tree situation.

for the senario to occur:
the tree must fall

what we are observing for:
does the tree make a noise?(assuming no one is around to hear it)

if we observe a tree falling(to the ground, non vacuum enviroment), we would notice that it makes alot of noise as its falling. if tested an infinite number of times we will always get the same result.

if a tree falls(to the ground, non vacuum enviroment). we assume that the tree didnt make a noise because.

the tree never fell at all.

so if the tree never fell in the first place>conflict with our senario"the tree must fall"
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Re: A simple yet complex question....

usually when a tree falls it makes noise?
just becuase we are not there to hear it doesnt mean that for some supernova reason it does not make sound.
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Re: A simple yet complex question....

sound are descriped as vibrations and sound waves. anything that can feel it, have ears can hear it. if you didnt have ears then you woundent hear it ehhh.
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