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    Re: A simple yet complex question....

    Quote Originally Posted by swordfish3
    Ok i was asked this ealier today, and it both interested and confused me and i couldnt find an answer and i dont know weather its been done before or not but i looked for it and couldnt find it so here we go! (its actually rather debatable)

    If a tree falls in the woods and nobody was around to here it does it still make a sound?

    something to think about eh?

    this always used to go round my high school to see what people thought of it.

    I think that the answer is no because if no one is there to hear then ther is no sound. So how can you tell if its made a sound when no one hears??????????

    But it still doesn't mean its making a sound. There are many animals out there who are sensative to other certains sounds. So its a yes...
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    Re: A simple yet complex question....

    *sigh* ok a third approach
    ill try to demonstrate common sense.

    a scientist is using the scientific method to examine a frog

    on day one he puts the frog on the table and claps his hands. the frog jumps

    next day he cuts off the frogs arms. claps his hands. the frog jumps.

    next day he cuts off the other arm. claps his hands. the frog jumps agian.

    next day he cuts off the frogs leg. claps his hands. the frog jumps agian.

    next day he cuts off the other leg. claps his hand. but amazingly the frog would not jump. he concludes that the frog couldnt jump because by cutting off limbs makes the frog deaf.

    this is true. we cannot prove it wrong. however, we all know better.

    to apply this to the tree situation.

    for the senario to occur:
    the tree must fall

    what we are observing for:
    does the tree make a noise?(assuming no one is around to hear it)

    if we observe a tree falling(to the ground, non vacuum enviroment), we would notice that it makes alot of noise as its falling. if tested an infinite number of times we will always get the same result.

    if a tree falls(to the ground, non vacuum enviroment). we assume that the tree didnt make a noise because.

    the tree never fell at all.

    so if the tree never fell in the first place>conflict with our senario"the tree must fall"
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    Re: A simple yet complex question....

    usually when a tree falls it makes noise?
    just becuase we are not there to hear it doesnt mean that for some supernova reason it does not make sound.


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    Re: A simple yet complex question....

    sound are descriped as vibrations and sound waves. anything that can feel it, have ears can hear it. if you didnt have ears then you woundent hear it ehhh.

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    Re: A simple yet complex question....

    i understand that, bugs and animals pick up sound, dont they?


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    Re: A simple yet complex question....

    100 time out of 100 a super nova will not make a noise. what you hear is your ship being destoyed from the various forms of energy that hits you. remmeber sound doesnt travel thorugh a vaccum(space) but cause your ship has an artificial atmoshpere, you will only hear stuff that is withing the artificial atomoshpere.

    you people watch to much tv and movies.

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    Re: A simple yet complex question....

    Quote Originally Posted by dancy_SAZ
    this always used to go round my high school to see what people thought of it.

    I think that the answer is no because if no one is there to hear then ther is no sound. So how can you tell if its made a sound when no one hears??????????

    But it still doesn't mean its making a sound. There are many animals out there who are sensative to other certains sounds. So its a yes...
    Read SoshiKitai's post on page 2, and you will be enlightened ^_^

    Anyways, the Chief and SK are right on this matter. Sound definitely does occur...... it doesnt matter whether anyone was there to witness it.
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