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While I believe that without your soul, there's no need for a brain, I believe that once your brain is removed from your body, it's dead. Even if it could be replaced in another human body, I'm sure that it would be a clean slate from that point on. Like formatting a hard disk.
I believe, on the other hand, that your soul CAN, in fact, travel from one body to the other. Some people call it shape-shifting, some call it a divine journey; I call it Karma. When you die, your soul is brought back to The Universe to wait for the next life cycle. That's how some people are born with natural talents and have unique/strange hobbies.
I believe that your soul is in more control of your body, personality and actions more than anything else in The Universe.
Nice to see you again Loknkey , let's have some more fun
Reincarnation is the act in which the soul goes from one life to the next. But, Karma determines where you end up in the next life.Do you mean reincarnation? Because that is another term that describes what you called "Karma".
Anyhow, I feel that the soul and the brain are one in the same to a degree. Really a brain is just another part of the human anatomy. It holds just as much signifigance as your pinky finger. When you start to think of your brain as the control panel to the rest of your body. You are already giving the brain credit for your souls hard work.
Einstein said if we used 100% of our brains capabilties... we would no longer NEED our brains (or bodies)! As we would be pure, self sustaining energy. That is what I believe the soul to be. The soul is resposible for everything important that goes on in the brain.
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Earlier you said Ichigo, isn't he able to leave his body because Kon is resides inside his body, can Ichigo control his body while he is a soul reaper, no, but his brain is inside his body, by logic, shouldn't his body be able to remain the same if his brain is inside his body and he would't need Kon to be inside his body when he goes reaper? I think that old phase "you can't be at two places at once" comes into mind.
Bleach would be a much better show if Ichigo's brain had to be removed every time he transformed into a soul reaper =)
If the soul is not affected by physical ailments such as illness and injury, what about aging? Since experiences and maturing also changes our brains physically, would our souls be immune to these kind of effects too?
The essence that is described by the cumulation of this brain and body as one is similar to the scientific idea of a soul. Even a mad scientist wont try mimicing a person's sould and memories because the chamical balances are too many and too complex. However souls are still far different then just the brain and a chemical balance. They're the reason why there's still an unexplained ammount of energy after death.
So what you said about the clean slate in my opinion is one of the three possibilities *until I'm prooved wrong* Basically it'd either start over, the brain would learn to adapt and a fusion of the donor and recipient would come into existence or the brain could simply go into shock from the assault from chemicals that it's not used to. (Basically an OD from chemicals that the brain is not used to.)
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I think you missed the point I was trying to make. What I was saying is that the electrical signals ARE the thought process and the chemical composition helps it along and affects it. And these thoughts are made of energy which the soul is made up of as well. The chemical composition with in the brain is indeed different from person to person, which is why no two are the same and this is what gives us an added variety as that person will perceive and understand things differently. I know all about depression and chemical imbalance, hell I have that. But your digging deeper into what I was saying then was necessary. But sense you wanted to dig deeper lets just see how far down this rabbit hole goes. Depression, as you said, is a chemical imbalance. This is true, but it also affects the thought process that will be transferred to the soul as well. The soul will take the characteristic of what it knows the most and what state it was in before death. If it has known depression for most of its physical existence, that will be it main trait, but if it died happy, being the most recent memory will also play a roll onto how it will perceive things. The same thing if the rolls have been reversed. If the person was happy for most of its life, then the soul will be a happy one, and if it died sad it will remember this sadness that will also affect them as well. I can go on and on about this but I hope you get what I am saying, in that anything that effects thought and personality if it’s by choice or by chemical imbalance it will be imprinted onto the soul with that persons characteristics. Now like I said, I have that chemical imbalance in my head to cause me to fall into depression very easily, how ever, thanks to a very important person in my life, they showed me how to work around that and not let it completely consume me. So if I die, my soul will continue to have that depressive aspect of its self, but sense I have learned how to curve it so it doesn’t effect me to the exstent it once did, there for it will not be as much of a dominant trait. These souls will continue to act and see things as they did when they were alive and continue to look at things as they once did this is what makes them different as they retain their persanality and thought proceses.
Now you can disagree with me and I am cool with that, but the question of the thread is that, which do you think is the real you, soul or the brain? I’m giving reasons as to why it’s both. But you’re going a bit deeper then is necessary and going into behavior.
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I belive that personality is about the brains, alothou body has some influence to it but nothing so big that couldn't be relearned by brains in months of time. That is what I believe and it's pretty much what scientist believe these days.
But like professor Esko Valtaoja, University of Turku(Quasar research), said in his TV serie
few days ago, there still might be something that is beyong our present knowledge, like
possible "soul". But well, you never know if that is true untill transfer of that kind actually happens. Anyway, idea of human soul is kinda pretty ^_^
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