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Old May 17, 2006, 10:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Yes, but thats just it.
Thats why I made this speech, because we want to keep God in it because it's always been like that and if we do, then there will be following acts that will bring our country Down.
And we don't wants that now Precious Do we's?
You depend to much on religion to push people in the right direction. You also forget that Christianity is not the only religion that teaches good morals. People also have common sense, logic, a conscience, and education provided by our nations schools to teach them how to act like proper human beings. Not everything (and hardly anything) depends on a religion for mental and/or physical stability. Infact religion is part of the main cause for conflict and unstability, it causes more death and destruction than peace; an example would be the conflict happening in Canaan at the moment between the Israelites and Palesitinians. Religion is also is good source for ignorance; were it not for the religious deffiances of Galileo or Capernicus we would have never known that the earth was not the center of the universe, as stated by the religious leaders of the time. So it is quite possible to say the world would be better off without religion with it's conflicts and restrictions.
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Old May 22, 2006, 05:05 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Speech!

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You depend to much on religion to push people in the right direction. You also forget that Christianity is not the only religion that teaches good morals. People also have common sense, logic, a conscience, and education provided by our nations schools to teach them how to act like proper human beings. Not everything (and hardly anything) depends on a religion for mental and/or physical stability. Infact religion is part of the main cause for conflict and unstability, it causes more death and destruction than peace; an example would be the conflict happening in Canaan at the moment between the Israelites and Palesitinians. Religion is also is good source for ignorance; were it not for the religious deffiances of Galileo or Capernicus we would have never known that the earth was not the center of the universe, as stated by the religious leaders of the time. So it is quite possible to say the world would be better off without religion with it's conflicts and restrictions.

oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo What I said Meant that All the GOOD Morals that Unbelievers have are DERIVED from the Religions of Christ. Be it Catholic, Christian, Baptist, Whatever.

Whether they got it from a Book or from someone teaching them to be good.

They are DERIVED from that of Christ.

So for us to take that out of our Country and everywhere anyway, Is Just...Well not good!

oOoO and no I don't depend on religion^.^ I depend on Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour.
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Old May 22, 2006, 05:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Speech!

I think there are just too many topics about god.
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Old May 22, 2006, 06:27 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Speech!

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oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo What I said Meant that All the GOOD Morals that Unbelievers have are DERIVED from the Religions of Christ. Be it Catholic, Christian, Baptist, Whatever.

Whether they got it from a Book or from someone teaching them to be good.

They are DERIVED from that of Christ.

So for us to take that out of our Country and everywhere anyway, Is Just...Well not good!

oOoO and no I don't depend on religion^.^ I depend on Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour.
interesting statements, in all sense I agree.
i believe that people can choose whatever religion they want, and can worship as freely as they want, i mean this is America folks.
Yes, i believe people are overeacting, just becuase there is a god refrence or a cross on a mountain, they try to get rid of it. Every man who has been of great leadership in this country has had Jesus in thier heart, Early president, Martin Luther King. All men like that demonstrate Christ like characteristics that would have been for the worse if these people were not christians. This country has been founded for and on Gods word, yet we choose to reject it. and this isnt just some relegion. it Gods word.
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Old May 23, 2006, 05:29 AM   #16 (permalink)
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You depend to much on religion to push people in the right direction. You also forget that Christianity is not the only religion that teaches good morals. People also have common sense, logic, a conscience, and education provided by our nations schools to teach them how to act like proper human beings. Not everything (and hardly anything) depends on a religion for mental and/or physical stability. Infact religion is part of the main cause for conflict and unstability, it causes more death and destruction than peace; an example would be the conflict happening in Canaan at the moment between the Israelites and Palesitinians. Religion is also is good source for ignorance; were it not for the religious deffiances of Galileo or Capernicus we would have never known that the earth was not the center of the universe, as stated by the religious leaders of the time. So it is quite possible to say the world would be better off without religion with it's conflicts and restrictions.
It sounds like u have extensive knowledge on the subject of the Christian religion but i recon and i might be wrong that u get these from quotes on other websites which also disputes the facts that ppl as we know them, wanna abandone any knowledge or even the existance of God because they feel they are Gods in themselfs and can covern anything if not everything without Gods help.U know when ppl start talking about God and what he did and what he is still doing and will do forever and ever till He brings the last days on in which i must say that the signs is here and we see it and know it because we were taught from small about it.
Even other religion have calendars on the religion cycle so yeah we all know the ppl will slowly but surely and more surely pull away from the religion they have been brought up with and it all stands in the bible and that is what is amazing about the word of God that whenever the bible was writen by God inspired men He talks about what mankind will do and that is so far in the future and not nostraedamus type sayings that doesn not happen..
So to conclude what i wanted to say we can fight it by word or by action what will happen will happen and we must be strong enough to keep the word of God in our life so that we can be the living examples and proof that God still exist in everyone of us that believe and follow him.The problem is that this world is but mere a springboard into the afterlife and the minds of men will not be changed neither their hearts they will strive their life for alot of things of this world and just to confirm this i will Quote u a passage out the Bible....

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1But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

4For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a] putting them into gloomy dungeons[b] to be held for judgment; 5if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men 8(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.[c] 10This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature[d] and despise authority.

Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings; 11yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord. 12But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
This is what the world is slowly going to......
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Re: Speech!

'm sorry, I know most of you were waiting for the imfamous JLI to totally kill an audience with this huge speech that pounded in people's hearts, and I assure you that the next one I write for my class will be such. It's just this is what I was Required to do this time ^.^" Sorry again.

WELL the reason I posted this up in this section is so that yous mugs could not only read it but DISCUSS IT! Woooo hooo...Soooo yes since its not very long I thought you guys might like to discuss it to MAKE it longer Hehehe. So Discuss away and don't leave disappointed please!!!!!
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Old May 23, 2006, 07:19 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Speech!

I don't think that everyone is getting what is being brought up. You are relying too much on religion. You use it as your defense. Whenever you have something that you dissagree with but have no evidence or reason to back it up then you use god as your defense. Which is why there are so many disputes pertaining to religion.

The reason behind this is that we are trying to make all religions feel accepted. By your statements you are completely forgetting this. We don't have to take down every cross, but we have to accept the fact that some other religions may want to have their own religious icons also constructed in various places. The thing about the pledge of allegience? Who cares! If you want to say one nation under god, buddah, allah, it's your friggin choice! Who's going to stop you? Putting quotes from the bible in there is not going to convince us that god should be included in the education system. All it's going to do is to prove that very religious people do not really see the problem with today's world. If a chrisis happens it's because god commands it? That's a bunch of B.S. You make your own decisions and so come the consequences.

People need to learn to depend on themselves. If the god you believe in want's you to depend on him for everything and not depend on youself, than it is not a god I want to believe in. Thinking like that is just known as laziness.
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Old May 23, 2006, 11:36 AM   #19 (permalink)
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It sounds like u have extensive knowledge on the subject of the Christian religion but i recon and i might be wrong that u get these from quotes on other websites
I couldn't make much from your post as you need a great deal of work done on your gammar and spelling. However I would like to say you are gravely mistaken assuming that I gathered my knowledge from the internet, as much of the information given on the internet is usually fictional or is corrupted in some way. I learn most of this in my World History class, from the History Channel, and by consulting with my grandmother who is a very strict Christian.
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I couldn't make much from your post as you need a great deal of work done on your gammar and spelling. However I would like to say you are gravely mistaken assuming that I gathered my knowledge from the internet, as much of the information given on the internet is usually fictional or is corrupted in some way. I learn most of this in my World History class, from the History Channel, and by consulting with my grandmother who is a very strict Christian.
Thanks for the comment but i think we have the same gammer/spelling problem so yeah the Pot calling the Kettle black.
Like i said the world is in a phase of changing from lawfull to lawless and if we take away the conrnerstone of the country ---> which is a certain religion then somewhere someone is making a big mistake and that is my opinion so in not so many words that is what i meant to say.

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Putting quotes from the bible in there is not going to convince us that god should be included in the education system. All it's going to do is to prove that very religious people do not really see the problem with today's world. If a chrisis happens it's because god commands it? That's a bunch of B.S. You make your own decisions and so come the consequences.
God has been in the education system forever looks like u don't understand the problem because they wanna take God out not include him.

Why do u think there is so many different religions today is it because we are so diverse NO!!!!!!!!!! it is because nobody can actually stand together as a world today in the older days all these different religions was there aswell because if u say this the next oke wanna be different and therefore we have so many different religions because we dont wanna be governed by the word of a religion but only by choice that we make when we feel like it hehehehehehehe!!!!!!!!!!! pls man u are a joker right.
Cool i have nothing more to say it is going nowhere ......


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Thanks for the comment but i think we have the same gammer/spelling problem so yeah the Pot calling the Kettle black.
Like i said the world is in a phase of changing from lawfull to lawless and if we take away the conrnerstone of the country ---> which is a certain religion then somewhere someone is making a big mistake and that is my opinion so in not so many words that is what i meant to say.
Please, find some spelling and grammar errors that I have made, and I will find the great deal many that you have made and we will compare. This is why I am hesitant to reply to any of your posts, becuase you are a blabbering moron who comes up with the most abstract of idiotic ideas. You are an example of why parents should not let their mentally challenged children near computers.

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It sounds like u have extensive knowledge on the subject of the Christian religion but i recon and i might be wrong that u get these from quotes on other websites which also disputes the facts that ppl as we know them, wanna abandone any knowledge or even the existance of God because they feel they are Gods in themselfs and can covern anything if not everything without Gods help.U know when ppl start talking about God and what he did and what he is still doing and will do forever and ever till He brings the last days on in which i must say that the signs is here and we see it and know it because we were taught from small about it. <
Even other religion have calendars on the religion cycle so yeah we all know the ppl will slowly but surely and more surely pull away from the religion they have been brought up with and it all stands in the bible and that is what is amazing about the word of God that whenever the bible was writen by God inspired men He talks about what mankind will do and that is so far in the future and not nostraedamus type sayings that doesn not happen.. <--- biggest run on sentence I have ever seen
So to conclude what i wanted to say we can fight it by word or by action what will happen will happen and we must be strong enough to keep the word of God in our life so that we can be the living examples and proof that God still exist in everyone of us that believe and follow him.The problem is that this world is but mere a springboard into the afterlife and the minds of men will not be changed neither their hearts they will strive their life for alot of things of this world and just to confirm this i will Quote u a passage out the Bible....
Wow, do you really believe I type like this?

p.s: All mispelt or mispronounced words are bolded.
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I think the reason some people are complaining about there being religion in the law and so closely related to the government is because they might of faced some sort of persecution because they decided not to do the pledge of alliegance or what not. I don't think you should take God out of the pledge or even out of schools. Like was said before, either you choose to do it or not. If you have a problem with it, then just stand (for respect) and there. And if you are the kind of person who has a problem with someone not doing the pledge of alliegance or what not, back off.
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