Spontaneous Human Combustion

*Lighting Count* · Mar 13, 2006, 03:48 PM

Spontanenous human combustion is were a human brust into flames without heat from an external force.do you belive this is possible?There have been meny reports of this happening but its never been proven.

*Rave_Grip* · Mar 13, 2006, 03:51 PM

O_O It's my kinda stuff ... where did you hear it? I guess it might be possible, using psychic force, I guess.

Chiefblackhammer · Mar 13, 2006, 03:52 PM

Sure why not, we are made of some quite flammable stuff so I have no problems believing it!

*Soshi Kitai* · Mar 13, 2006, 03:55 PM

The "CandleWax" effect... or also known as the "Wick effect":

http://science.howstuffworks.com/shc3.htm

... that is one proven way to prove human combustion wrong...

However, science books fail to mention how to answer OTHER happenings with spontaneous human combustion that the Wick Effect cannot explain.

^_^ ... I believe it's true... however, I won't go any farther than that...

If other details will be said, I'll say it later...

*Lighting Count* · Mar 13, 2006, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefblackhammer

we are made of some quite flammable stuff

from what i here the human body is almost 75% water how can water combust?

*KenX* · Mar 13, 2006, 04:09 PM

Original thread, Here - Spontaneous Human Combustion

My posts on the matter-

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Being a large proportion water, the human body does not burn very well. However, in many cases of SHC victims' bodies were reduced to cinders. To render the body to such a state requires temperatures of more than 1700°C (3000°F). Even in modern crematoria, which have temperatures around 1100°C (2000°F), bones cannot be broken down completely and have to be ground into smaller pieces.

There is however something called The "wick Effect that is only in theory.

The wick effect theory essentially says that a person is burned through his/her own fats after being ignited, accidentally or otherwise. The clothed human body acts like an 'inside-out' candle: the human fat (the fuel source) is inside and the clothing of the victim (the wick) is outside. Hence there is a continuous supply of fuel in the form of melting fat seeping into the victim's clothing. Fat contains a large amount of energy due to the presence of long hydrocarbon chains.

Using a dead pig wrapped in a blanket and placed in a mocked-up room, the BBC set out to prove the 'wick' theory in its science television show QED. A small amount of petrol was poured on the blanket as an accelerant. After igniting the petrol, the researchers left it to burn by itself. The temperature of the fire was regularly recorded at only around 800°C (1472°F). As the fire burned through the pig's skin, the fire melted the pig's subcutaneous fats, which flowed onto the blanket. Bone marrow, which also contains a high amount of fats, contributed to the burning. The surrounding furniture was not burned, although a television placed above a cupboard had its plastic cover melted. The fire had to be manually extinguished after seven hours. Most of the pig's body had been burned to ashes.

From the experiment, the BBC researchers explained the following characteristics of SHC:

· The fires were highly localized. The flames of the fire were less than 500 millimetres (20 inches) high; therefore, the fire usually did not spread to furniture in the vicinity.
· The body was severely burned. The fire, although not very hot comparatively, can burn for a long period of time, as shown by the experiment. It is further fuelled by the body fat of the victim, which explains why the body can burn for such a long time.
· The furniture located above the cupboards burned. The fire continuously heated the air and produced a convection current. Hot air rose and caused the plastics in the television set to melt.

Most victims are aslo said to be Alcoholic.

Chiefblackhammer · Mar 13, 2006, 04:10 PM

The composition of the human body is as follows, most of which are flammable:
Oxygen 65%
Sulfur 0.3 %
Carbon 18.5 %
Sodium 0.2 %
Hydrogen 9.5 %
Chlorine 0.2 %
Nitrogen 3.2 %
Magnesium 0.1%
Calcium 1.5 %
Iodine 0.1 %
Phosphorous 1.0 %
Iron 0.1 %
Potassium 0.4 %
Everything else 0.1 %
(aluminum, boron, chromium, cobalt, copper, fluorine, manganese, molydenum, selenium, silicon, tin, vanadium, and zinc)

*Lighting Count* · Mar 13, 2006, 04:11 PM

oh shit KenX got me on this one looks like there is already a thread about it, oh well

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefblackhammer

The composition of the human body is as follows, most of which are flammable:
Oxygen 65%
Sulfur 0.3 %
Carbon 18.5 %
Sodium 0.2 %
Hydrogen 9.5 %
Chlorine 0.2 %
Nitrogen 3.2 %
Magnesium 0.1%
Calcium 1.5 %
Iodine 0.1 %
Phosphorous 1.0 %
Iron 0.1 %
Potassium 0.4 %
Everything else 0.1 %
(aluminum, boron, chromium, cobalt, copper, fluorine, manganese, molydenum, selenium, silicon, tin, vanadium, and zinc)

I would only say just a few of these are flameable and thoes are hydorogen,Nitrogen, sulfer, and mybe carbon, if i'm wrong corect me.

*Soshi Kitai* · Mar 13, 2006, 04:15 PM

...well, not like you could've brought it back... everyone hates a necro-poster. ^_^

... <_< ... but like they said, it's only a theory, and though it was proven once or twice... it still couldn't explain everything else.

Such as: In some cases, ONLY whatever the person was lying on, was burned, NOTHING ELSE.

... like the fireman who was sleeping on his bed... people heard screaming... and when they finally got in, everything seemed fine... EXCEPT for the large burned hole that was on the bed... (and of course, the missing fireman)

Afterall, wouldn't the rest of the bed catch on fire? O_o

Why did only that spot have fire? What could have explained that?

*bloodhawk* · Mar 13, 2006, 04:16 PM

i think that it cold happen but not intiley shure. maby in the poll u should of put in a maby

*Rave_Grip* · Mar 13, 2006, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soshi Kitai

...well, not like you could've brought it back... everyone hates a necro-poster. ^_^

... <_< ... but like they said, it's only a theory, and though it was proven once or twice... it still couldn't explain everything else.

Such as: In some cases, ONLY whatever the person was lying on, was burned, NOTHING ELSE.

... like the fireman who was sleeping on his bed... people heard screaming... and when they finally got in, everything seemed fine... EXCEPT for the large burned hole that was on the bed... (and of course, the missing fireman)

Afterall, wouldn't the rest of the bed catch on fire? O_o

Why did only that spot have fire? What could have explained that?

O_O that is freeaakyy

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Soshi Kitai For You... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The farther you go, the less you know. Posts: 1,245 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts Credits: 9,295	Re: Spontaneous Human Combustion The "CandleWax" effect... or also known as the "Wick effect": http://science.howstuffworks.com/shc3.htm ... that is one proven way to prove human combustion wrong... However, science books fail to mention how to answer OTHER happenings with spontaneous human combustion that the Wick Effect cannot explain. ^_^ ... I believe it's true... however, I won't go any farther than that... If other details will be said, I'll say it later... __________________ Click here to Brawl! We had an awesome anniversary! Click here to join in on the fun!
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Chiefblackhammer Commander Ham Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 1,713 Thanks: 4 Thanked 35 Times in 32 Posts Credits: 27,111	Re: Spontaneous Human Combustion The composition of the human body is as follows, most of which are flammable: Oxygen 65% Sulfur 0.3 % Carbon 18.5 % Sodium 0.2 % Hydrogen 9.5 % Chlorine 0.2 % Nitrogen 3.2 % Magnesium 0.1% Calcium 1.5 % Iodine 0.1 % Phosphorous 1.0 % Iron 0.1 % Potassium 0.4 % Everything else 0.1 % (aluminum, boron, chromium, cobalt, copper, fluorine, manganese, molydenum, selenium, silicon, tin, vanadium, and zinc) __________________ \|~AnimeVector~\|
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Soshi Kitai For You... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The farther you go, the less you know. Posts: 1,245 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts Credits: 9,295	Re: Spontaneous Human Combustion ...well, not like you could've brought it back... everyone hates a necro-poster. ^_^ ... <_< ... but like they said, it's only a theory, and though it was proven once or twice... it still couldn't explain everything else. Such as: In some cases, ONLY whatever the person was lying on, was burned, NOTHING ELSE. ... like the fireman who was sleeping on his bed... people heard screaming... and when they finally got in, everything seemed fine... EXCEPT for the large burned hole that was on the bed... (and of course, the missing fireman) Afterall, wouldn't the rest of the bed catch on fire? O_o Why did only that spot have fire? What could have explained that? __________________ Click here to Brawl! We had an awesome anniversary! Click here to join in on the fun!
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