Thread: Spontaneous Human Combustion

Originally Posted by HeartlessViper

HAHAHA kids... no affence if your not a kid.
That cannot happen. Were not dragonball Z people and were not magical.
Athough we wish this at our most might, it will never happen.
We are mear humans that is it and that is all.

we arent talking about the kahmehameha wave try to read all the pages to a thread before replying

spontaneos human combustion happens for many reason usually there is a flame nearby when it does
the person was usually smoking a cigarette or a pipe when it happened so there is a reason in most cases they find the cause or the cause burnt up with the victim

It has actually been proven that there is a reason for spontanious human combustion but that makes it un-spontanious its usually happens when old people fall asleep in front of a gas fire and the fat in their skin liquidises and the gas from the gas fire mixes with the now liquid fat and because of its fatty content the liquidised fat traps the gas (and the liquid fat isnt like water its just like sweat) and is soaked back into the skin all it needs now is the bio-electric energy produced naturally inside our own bodies to cause combustion which is then called spontanious human combustion. and because the combustion happens from the inside-outwards people are litterally reduced to ashes thus proving that what we thought was spontanious human combustion wasnt spontanious so no i dont believe in it

Originally Posted by swordfish3

It has actually been proven that there is a reason for spontanious human combustion but that makes it un-spontanious its usually happens when old people fall asleep in front of a gas fire and the fat in their skin liquidises and the gas from the gas fire mixes with the now liquid fat and because of its fatty content the liquidised fat traps the gas (and the liquid fat isnt like water its just like sweat) and is soaked back into the skin all it needs now is the bio-electric energy produced naturally inside our own bodies to cause combustion which is then called spontanious human combustion. and because the combustion happens from the inside-outwards people are litterally reduced to ashes thus proving that what we thought was spontanious human combustion wasnt spontanious so no i dont believe in it

The Wick Effect, yeah, we know. We all referred to that.

What bothered me about the Wick Effect, is that there are many cases that can't be explained or solved by the Wick Effect.

Henceforth: "The Spontaneous"

Afterall, if it were truly "Unspontaneous", it would have been considered a full-fledged FACT nowadays. However, even professional books admit that it is still called "Spontaneous" and that the "Wick Effect" is still a theory, for the sole reason that it never answered the rest of the cases.

^_^

Originally Posted by chiefblackhammer

The composition of the human body is as follows, most of which are flammable:
Oxygen 65%
Sulfur 0.3 %
Carbon 18.5 %
Sodium 0.2 %
Hydrogen 9.5 %
Chlorine 0.2 %
Nitrogen 3.2 %
Magnesium 0.1%
Calcium 1.5 %
Iodine 0.1 %
Phosphorous 1.0 %
Iron 0.1 %
Potassium 0.4 %
Everything else 0.1 %
(aluminum, boron, chromium, cobalt, copper, fluorine, manganese, molydenum, selenium, silicon, tin, vanadium, and zinc)

some of these element by them selves are flammable but the majority of them are found in compounds and not sperately like water (1 oxygen, 2 hydrogen) which isn't very flammable.

Originally Posted by dude101

some of these element by them selves are flammable but the majority of them are found in compounds and not sperately like water (1 oxygen, 2 hydrogen) which isn't very flammable.

thats what i was thinking but chief think oxygen is flammable.I know that O2 is flammable but i do not belive that is what is in the human body.

Oh yeah i think he got that list from the frist ep of FMA i don't know if i trust it

Originally Posted by dude101

some of these element by them selves are flammable but the majority of them are found in compounds and not sperately like water (1 oxygen, 2 hydrogen) which isn't very flammable.

Very much true…However when we breathe, large amounts of Nitrogen and smaller amounts of other gases such as Oxygen and Hydrogen. Now what happens is that those gases are stored in the lungs where the oxygen is separated from the other gases. The oxygen is passed into the blood and through the process the “used” oxygen (which is converted to Carbon Dioxide) along with the other gases are breathed back out.

Now during this process the gases remain in their gas form and are flammable. For Spontaneous Human Combustion to work it would have to start in the lungs as that is where a majority of the flammable materials which could be ignited are found, it is the central part of the body mass and covers enough of the human body to “melt” part if not the rest. Where oxygen become and is store (as well as abundantly found as) is when the oxygen is passed from the blood stream into the cells, where the oxygen is process, stored or passed back to the blood stream as Carbon Dioxide.

Cells (muscle, skin and fat) when they store it do store it as H20, which makes the average human adult about 55% water based. Now this is where the debate comes in and I will refer to KenX’s post for a very viable reason human combustion as you normally hear it does not exist, if (as I stated earlier) the human body does combust from the lung (only place possible) then the composition of the rest of the body is designed to put you out before there is total consumption (I still believe you would die, just not be a crispy critter).

KenX stated the exact temperature range to melt the entire body like what has been reported and since that isn’t a possibility as of yet, much less one to occur with the human body from the little trace amounts of found in the lungs, Spontaneous Human Combustion does not exist as it has been stated by some sources. I believe it could happen but would produce lethal but non-externally visible results.

Originally Posted by Lighting Count

thats what i was thinking but chief think oxygen is flammable.I know that O2 is flammable but i do not belive that is what is in the human body.

Oh yeah i think he got that list from the frist ep of FMA i don't know if i trust it

To answer this no, hell no did I take this from FMA. I do not take anything from anime. If I state a scientific fact I will use a scientific source, only an idiot would use an anime show even if the data were accurate the source isn’t an authority in the field. I am not offended by what you said (as I am very logical and can see why you thought that) but just want to clarify. In fact I normally use several references just to ensure I am correct so here is where I pulled that:


http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives...9210.An.r.html
http://fig.cox.miami.edu/~cmallery/1...e/elements.htm
http://web2.airmail.net/uthman/elements_of_body.html
http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howthi...dyelements.htm

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah This whole thread made me laugh.
Not in a mean way...I just found it funny is all.

Well now that I got that smartass spam remark out of the way.....

Eh, Well the reason I started laughing at first was becuase I was thinking of someone like concentrating on harnessing the energy and will power to start a combustion within themselves triggering a massive explotion...Hahah

Well now instead of nonsense from my thoughts...Seriously..I don't think it's possible really. I mean if you digest something that makes a chemical reaction and all that good stuff then well uh duh. But "SPONTANEOUS" I think not.