And the only thing I meant to stress was that the individuals (if any) affected aren't of any real large significance in the grand scheme of things.
And this is where we diverge. . .
Any individual always has that option.
And who's to say that a person contemplating suicide isn't in the right mindset?
Assuming they aren't in the right mindset, they could seek help, counseling, advice, etc. If afterwardds they feel as though it's the right choice, on what basis can you, I, anyone else stop them?
"I'm sorry we cannot let you commit suicide. You're simply not in the right mindset and lack qualifications to make those sorts of decisions about your life. Here's a pamphlet on how to deal with stress so thatyou may feel better about living. If that doesn't work, well my dear, there's always anti-depressants"
yep . . .
The majority of individuals that commit suicide are individuals who in life were clinically diagnosed with depression.
Depression is defined as a mental illness that can be caused by more than 1 reason.
Of all individuals clinically diagnosed with depression less than 100% commit suicide. Of those that do not commit suicide, there are individuals that never contemplate or consider suicide.
If we assume that all of those organizations dedicated to gathering data and research on depression and or the human brain, were not doling out incorrect information to the masses, then it is also safe to assume the information released by these organizations (NIH, CDC, APA, and many others) holds some tidbit of truth.
For as long as I can remember, it was said (or suggested) that depression can be treated in one way or another, and should be treated because of the seriousness of the symptoms which often include but are not limited to suicide / suicidal thoughts / suicidal tendencies.
This is the information that is fed to the general public by many healthcare proffesionals and organizations that gather data and or research depression (and the human brain).
I imagine, you like many others for some reason or other believe suicide is wrong either because of religious reasons and or you are convinced that it is not normal. (The thoughts and tendencies often associated with those that are depressed are not behaviors exhibited by normal every day average Joe people)
If it is because of the latter, have you ever wondered why?
Seriously I wonder why there exists in the world people like you.
From my stand point there is NOTHING, not a single bit of research, not at least one healthcare proffesional or organization that can prove that depression is a mental disorder that must be treated.
If all individuals clinicially diagnosed with depression do not commit suicide, then there is no obvious evidence that would suggest that depression is a trait amongst the human populous that should be weeded out. And infact there are kinds of depression such as SAD (Seasonal Affective Depression) that would indicate that depression is a normal occurrence in response to certain stimuli or in this case the lack of stimuli (light).
If for any instance it is normal to be depressed, who is it to say that the symptoms including but not limited to suicide (and things related to it) are not normal?
Again, I reiterate there is no sound proof that depression is an abnormality that must go treated.
Earlier I argued that people are free to choose suicide for whatever reason they have.
I will also argue as well then that for individuals that are diagnosed as depressed either clinically or by self diagnosis, they are free to seek help if they wish.
But is depression really an abnormality?
There is no cause and effect correlation between depression and suicide. There is nothing that will say or prove with absolute certainty that depression unless treated will lead to suicide.
Sure there is some evidence to suggest why depression occurs, modern science has shown differences in brain activity between those that are depressed and those that aren't, as well as studies that can prove marked differences betwen the brainsof individuals that did commit suicide and those that died by some other cause; but there is nothing to indicate that it is incorrect.
So why does there exist in the world people like you that believe suicide is wrong or not normal?
If you can provide a valid arguement for why you think suicide is wrong or unnecessary, then I'll agree with you that individuals contemplating suicide need help and need to be talked out of a choice that is theirs to make.