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Old Oct 15, 2008, 09:09 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Re: Suicide: acceptable or not?

I really cant tell you on that...because it depends on what type of suicide you are talking about. You also have to concider the assisted suicide and the condition that they are in. for example if you no longer have control over your body or your mind..would you want to live like that...or would it be easier on both you and your family if you had assisted suicide..or you were taken off life support. As for just deciding to kill yourself because you cant deal with your problems or you just plain dont want to live..that i dont agree with because people dont look at or think ahead about what it is going to do to their friends, family, and who ever they are with at the time. I do however believe that they have the ultimate right to make the decision on their own body and about their own life. The only thing people can do is be there, and try to help the best they can. So in all reality it depends on exactly what type of suicide your talking about.
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Old Oct 18, 2008, 01:28 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: Suicide: acceptable or not?

Suicide is understandable though its sad. When there is nothing in your life to keep you alive or you dont feel the need to live anymore is something that all humans can face at times. My advice is to be stronger than the force that tells you to kill yourself. In a sense the statement is be stronger than yourself when you feel your at the edge
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Old Oct 18, 2008, 07:11 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Re: Suicide: acceptable or not?

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Here is another human behavior that confuse me, suicidal; suicidal is the equivalent of murder except you do it to yourself I am just wondering If we should accept people who do that since life is a very special gift that god give us then they will just take it away. You what is your opinion?
First of all, you can't really accept someone who has just taken their life. Because they aren't alive anymore, thus we cannot accept something or someone, rather who doesn't exist.

But I understand what you're getting at. My apologies for complicating things.
Basically it goes like this - people who commit suicide are too weak to deal with reality. I'm sorry, but it's true. It's a time when things are too heavy, life gets to be too much, and you feel so unimportant that you just choose to end it. I mean, who cares right?

Wrong.

Committing suicide affects A LOT of people. So people who choose to go through with it are selfish bastards who don't give a damn about others. And who are too weak to try and fix things currently taking place in their life.

So should society accept this type of behavior in general?
No. Of course not. Should we mourn those who do it? Yes. It's always sad to see someone get into that place where things weigh so much, and life sucks so much that they couldn't handle it anymore. It's sad. It really is, but it is unacceptable. No matter the reason.

God gave us life. People are out there fighting for it. Cancer, War, AIDS.. and here these people are happily willing to give it away.

Pathetic. Sad. Unfortunate :[

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[i]I really cant tell you on that...because it depends on what type of suicide you are talking about. You also have to concider the assisted suicide and the condition that they are in. for example if you no longer have control over your body or your mind..blah blah blah blah MY EYES HURT![/I]
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Old Oct 23, 2008, 09:00 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Re: Suicide: acceptable or not?

Take it from me guys, suicide is'nt acceptable. It's a back door, a short cut if ya catch me. People are always so quick to give up on their lives when things get difficult that they take the easy way out. I've tried to kill myself a couple times in the past, and all i got was a month in the hospital and a lot of stiches. I't doesnt help you out of anything. Suicide also hurts everyone who cares about you. My girlfriend had complications with her health induced by stress when i got put in the hospital. Everyone is intitled to their own opinion, but mine is that suicide, in every shape in form, is unnacceptable and dishonorable.
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Old Oct 23, 2008, 12:16 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Re: Suicide: acceptable or not?

honestly, if a person feels the need to end it all, let them, there may be no other way and they need some form of a conclusion, if they need it, its their choice and caring is the last thing I'd do for someone who gives up just like that....sry, had to be said.
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Old Oct 23, 2008, 08:57 PM   #50 (permalink)
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honestly, if a person feels the need to end it all, let them, there may be no other way and they need some form of a conclusion
wow, that has to be the shallowest thing I have heard anyone say in my entire life. There is always a way! No matter how horrible the situation, there is always a way. If you know someone who is thinking about killing himself or herself, HELP THEM!! Don't just shrug your shoulders and go about your business. Yes, it's pathetic and sad that that is the only resort they are headed at, however there is always a way! ONE person can make a huge impact on their decision. And it is people like you who need to get themselves checked once or twice.

Sorry, 'had to be said'.
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wow, that has to be the shallowest thing I have heard anyone say in my entire life. There is always a way! No matter how horrible the situation, there is always a way. If you know someone who is thinking about killing himself or herself, HELP THEM!! Don't just shrug your shoulders and go about your business. Yes, it's pathetic and sad that that is the only resort they are headed at, however there is always a way! ONE person can make a huge impact on their decision. And it is people like you who need to get themselves checked once or twice.

Sorry, 'had to be said'.
you say there is always a way, but I try before I give up on them and it doesn't help, try having peoples deaths on your hands then try and talk to me about this. As for shallow, maybe, but your the belly rubber of the world that tries to make the world into sunshine and butterflies, there is no way that kind of world can exist, i'd rather be shallow than deluded.

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Old Oct 24, 2008, 12:29 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Re: Suicide: acceptable or not?

"The truly deluded are those who see and think of things only one way and refuse to acknowledge other paths." Unknown

You’re only half right demonicloud, how ever, what you have said your self also makes you deluded. It's true that the world will never be all sun shine and butterflies but at the same time it does not mean you should see it as it being a stagnated rancid decaying trash heap either. Yes it is hard to try and help some one who mite just end up killing them selves any way, but at the same time it's just as bad ignoring those who need help simply because you don't want to get your hands dirty. So your underlining reason for your belief is that ignorance is bliss even when those around you need help.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 02:00 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Re: Suicide: acceptable or not?

that can be true, alot of the time people believe that. Usually its coclueded that those people cannot be helped when they can. Its never right to give up on someone just because others have already given up. It happens alot, like i said earlier espeically with the emo fad going around that it can be a cry for attention.

No the world will never be a utopia of happiness and whatnot. but it doesnt nesically mean that alot of people should have to kill themselves just because they do feel that they dont deserve to live anymore. but its basically like its a cry for help like when a woman is beaten by her husband and nobody helps her out of the situation. Its a cry for help in some way when they tell you soemthing like that. Med, or even talking to them and letting them get some stuff out can help alot. Being ignored and not doing anything isnt going to help either.
Yea its espically hard when you tell someone that its wrong for them to kill themselves, and everytime you say that to them, it can only make it worse depending on how far they are in that situation. people tend to say one thing then do another, why they say its wrong do alot of them actually try and help? Hey at least listening to them is better than ignoring them and making their life harder.
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Re: Suicide: acceptable or not?

I'll admit, i may have to think harder on this, yet, there were many deaths that I could have stopped, and I failed because they wouldn't let me help them, so it kinda jaded me to this kind of thought process, I apologize to all those offended by my thought process, but I still stand by my thoughts nonetheless..
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Re: Suicide: acceptable or not?

Personally, I think it is acceptable, but I only say that lightly. Anyone can commit suicide, but I also think that it's a coward's way out. Also, I don't think suicide can be considered equivalent to murder, because murder is always pre-meditated, and suicide is often spontateous, with little planning in advance.
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