Thread: Suicide: acceptable or not?

Originally Posted by anime_being_god

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WHAT?

I didnt just read what i think i read, did i?

what do u mean courage? suicide has nothing to do with courage, its a selfish act that is cowardice, not courage at all. I think its kinda dangerous to think of suicide as same as courage.

its selfish because there r others who hold your life dear, as much as they hold their own lives, like your family.

and theres always someone out there to give help to a situation like that

Put yourself in someones else position for once.
Someone who is about to commit suicide,
but could you go thru it?

Can u build the courage to overdose knowing you may not wake up ever again?
To cut thru a major artery bleeding out, losing conciounsness while the blood melts away from your brain?

Could you really kill yourself and still think its an easy and cowardly way out?


Try it, tell me how easy it was.

People often talk thru their ass without
actually knowing the facts.

Ignorance damages.

Originally Posted by Rook

Put yourself in someones else position for once.
Someone who is about to commit suicide,
but could you go thru it?

Can u build the courage to overdose knowing you may not wake up ever again?
To cut thru a major artery bleeding out, losing conciounsness while the blood melts away from your brain?

Could you really kill yourself and still think its an easy and cowardly way out?


Try it, tell me how easy it was.

People often talk thru their ass without
actually knowing the facts.

Ignorance damages.

i agree i tried commiting suicide and i couldn't go through with it cuase i wimped out so don't try saying it is a cowards waty cuase it is hard to do

Trust me Rook, I have been there several times as well as some of my friends and I can tell you that courage has nothing to do with it. It's your basick instink to servive and the thought of other people and how they will inevitibly feel if you go through with it is what provents people from succeding with the act the magority of the times. Those that succed are those deluded enough to shove that instink aside and the selfishness to end it no mater how hurt and torn their family and friends will feel about it. After what I have gone through and speeking with my friends about it and their experiance, there is no way in hell you can tell me it's because of courage. Courage would be trudging on and make an effort to turn your life around for the better. Now that is courage.

Originally Posted by Scourge

Trust me Rook, I have been there several times as well as some of my friends and I can tell you that courage has nothing to do with it. It's your basick instink to servive and the thought of other people and how they will inevitibly feel if you go through with it is what provents people from succeding with the act the magority of the times. Those that succed are those deluded enough to shove that instink aside and the selfishness to end it no mater how hurt and torn their family and friends will feel about it. After what I have gone through and speeking with my friends about it and their experiance, there is no way in hell you can tell me it's because of courage. Courage would be trudging on and make an effort to turn your life around for the better. Now that is courage.

amen to that scourge i know how you fell cuase i am the same way

Originally Posted by Scourge

Trust me Rook, I have been there several times as well as some of my friends and I can tell you that courage has nothing to do with it. It's your basick instink to servive and the thought of other people and how they will inevitibly feel if you go through with it is what provents people from succeding with the act the magority of the times. Those that succed are those deluded enough to shove that instink aside and the selfishness to end it no mater how hurt and torn their family and friends will feel about it. After what I have gone through and speeking with my friends about it and their experiance, there is no way in hell you can tell me it's because of courage. Courage would be trudging on and make an effort to turn your life around for the better. Now that is courage.

Courage- mental or moral strength to venture, persevere, and withstand danger, fear, or difficulty.

(taken from merriam webster online dictionary
courage - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary)

To mentally over come the difficulty of actually commiting suicide, and knowing what you leave behind takes courage.
Courage does not discriminate no matter what the situation or morals that take place.

Morals and other ideals are debatable.
Nazi's had courage to stand up for what they believed in during WW2,
just becuase what they did wasnt right in the vast majority's views, does not discredit the courage it took to fight for what they believed in.

When you pull a trigger instinct to live does not kick in.
When your drowning or suffocating, instinct has time to kick in.

But the willpower to live, thats ultimately up to the person,
and not his or her instincts.

Your right, there is no way in hell i can tell you its becuase of "courage".
I wouldnt agree with that,
but i am telling you, it takes courage.


Let me ask you this, kamikazes commited suicide for their country.
Is that not courage?

People sacrifice their own lives for the benifit of others all the time.
Whatever way you look at it, those are valid suicides, whether it be by
an insecure teen, a nazi, or a hero, they all needed courage.

Now the motivation to power that courage would be another story.

Besides, dont forget some of those suicides are commited without suicide ideation,
but out of pure impulse that simply cannot be helped whether the person goin thru
it likes it or not.

my opinion about suicide... it's just wrong... we don't need any more people dying just because, there life sucks... But, i think people who plan 2 kill them self's... there just confused because, something must of happened in there life and they don't know how to solve there problem...

Originally Posted by Rook

Courage- mental or moral strength to venture, persevere, and withstand danger, fear, or difficulty.

To mentally over come the difficulty of actually commiting suicide, and knowing what you leave behind takes courage.
Courage does not discriminate no matter what the situation or morals that take place.

Morals and other ideals are debatable.
Nazi's had courage to stand up for what they believed in during WW2,
just becuase what they did wasnt right in the vast majority's views, does not discredit the courage it took to fight for what they believed in.


Let me ask you this, kamikazes commited suicide for their country.
Is that not courage?

People sacrifice their own lives for the benifit of others all the time.
Whatever way you look at it, those are valid suicides, whether it be by
an insecure teen, a nazi, or a hero, they all needed courage.

When you start talking about Nazis and kamikaze, I think you may be confusing courage with indoctrination. It is not a sign of courage to do as your leader/government/religion tells you to do, no matter how reprehensible, and honestly believe you're in the right. Courage would be having enough brains to think about what you're doing or about to do and question what you don't feel is right. Further, I'm pretty sure Nazis were more about sacrificing others for their own benefit, so even bringing them into your argument is confusing at best, at the very least incredibly insulting.

I do agree that it takes something to fight the basic instinct to live, although I wouldn't necessarily call it courage. Comparing suicidal teenagers (or persons of any age for that matter) to someone who would, say, run into a burning building trying to save someone else's life, knowing full well they could die doesn't really make sense. In one case, you have someone who is mainly concerned with the pain of living, and decides it isn't worth it; in the other you have someone that holds life sacred enough to possibly
give up their own for another.