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okay, here listen carefully:

ONE

the sun during it's existnce in the main sequene (or any star for that matter), maintains a temperature of approximately 6000 K (kelvin, not kilo or x1000) plus or minus 15 percent... okay?

so the sun becoming hotter which is the cause why the earth is having this increase n temperature is totally absurd.

TWO

yes, global warming might be a natural process (ant thanks to it, the earth has formed into a liveable planet), however, it is only considered natural when the atmosphere contains less than 0.025% (give or take) of carbon dioxide by volume... currently, we are at 0.046... not much? consider that the earth is millions of miles across, double hat volume, ant that is the volume of the atmosphere.

so, given that much increae in teh carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere, it is no longer natural, however,it is human - imposed... hence, it has become a problem.

so... main culprit: carbon dioxide emission.

THREE

the ozone layer in the north pole area is becoming larger by the minute (sorry, not by the second, it's decrease in the second scale is too negligible ). so the ultra violet rays which were suppposed to be reflected away from the earth (in the north pole area) is now being absorbed by the earth. considering the electro magneic spectrum, is the 5th to the highest wave in terms of energy carriedwhich approximates to 136.5 eV (electron Vots, sort of like the voltage carries per 1 mole of electons (1 mole = 6.02 times ten to the power of 23)... which means, we are taking in a whole lot of energy which we normalydo not need. to add, it's targeted at the area with the largest allocation of ice caps!

so adding this to the former problem of the green house effect, it enters, but doesn't leave...

therefore, the second culprit: CFC (chlorofluorocarbons)

*Mod Edit - Long line not needed* ~Aceman67

there... so i hope this clears things out bit... son't worry about te sun explodin during our lifetime... by then, we'd be long gone!

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Scourge

I did in my first post. Go back and read it. Not to sound offended, I just hate repeating my self.

Joe Mage

Accordin' ta the Theory, the ocean level has ta peak 'fore the Submergence Period can truly begin, which means that the Polar Ice Caps would have ta completely melt for that ta happen. So, if u go by the Theory, how fast it occurs is not necessarily a determinin' factor in how high the Oceans rise. The real problem lies in if it would occur too quickly for the human race ta adequately prepare for it, but (given the fact that it takes millions of years for the land ta recede far enough 'fore it would pose a threat ta those livin' on the land, thus givin' suffecient amount of time for evolution ta occur) if the Theory is correct; we really should have sufficient time ta make preparations, even wit our race addin' ta this occurrence. We would have more ta fear from a lack of preparation on our part than any lack of suffencient amount of time ta prepare. This is one of the reasons supporters of the Theory say why the Revolution Periods have been gettin' longer and longer, while the Submergence Periods have been gettin' shorter and shorter, 'cause of the lack of more frequent volcanic activity. However we have ta look at it like this, since man has been recordin' history; there have been only two major volcanic eruptions; the one that destroyed Pompeii and one on one of the Islands (forgive me, but the name of it escapes me) of the Phillipines. And scientists can' even begin ta imagine the amount of carbon emissions that these two events spewed forth. Now here's a good question, what about all of the major volcanic eruptions that occurred 'fore written history? The ones that we don' know 'bout? We would need ta trace any major volcanic activity that occurred since the latest Revolution Period began 'til now and that's goin' back 100's of millions of Years. Mankind's jus' a pin prick by that measurement. Now that's somethin' that I would be more afraid of happenin' than the earth warmin' up. If that thing blows, we're talkin' major global catastrophe! More so for the survivors than those that perish after the intial eruption, I hate ta have ta put it that way. If that thing goes, I hope that evry1 has their blankeys; 'cause u'll b usin' them for a long, long time.

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basilisk888

can we all at least agree the global warming is a problem and it is not all that of the problem because of the sun. And further more that the humans most likely will not (ops) survive??? how, it does not matter all that much (I think)

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Scourge

Yep, I can agree to the fact that global warming is bad.

PhoenixSara

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From what I've read of the topic, humans seem to be drastically increasing a process that may have already started. True, volcanoes put out a ton of chemicals into the air at one shot, but they aren't always having such spectacular displays of power and, in the overall scheme of things, it really isn't all that much compared to the size of the planet. I do find it odd that people are just now starting to push for hybrids and the like due to rising gas prices than they were in the 80s when scientists were examining global warming in depth and telling everyone we needed to start worrying.

Joe Mage

Scientists actually don' know how much mankind is contributin' ta this phenomenon, they don' have enough evidence ta accuately say that we're the cause. Nor do they have enough evidence ta say that there is actually a threat. In fact there r scientists that argue the exact opposite point of view and that we don' need ta panic. Point bein' is this, the scientists don' really know, one way or another. Both sides make alotta claims, but neither side can offer any substancial proof, only circumstantial evidence and theories, ta back them up. And as far as volcanoes r concerned, u correct as far as in one lifetime is concerned, but volcanoes have been on this Earth for far longer than mankind and have been eruptin' ever since the Earth's birth. As I have stated 'fore if u were ta trace all of the major volcanic eruptions, since our Revolution Period began, it would go back 100's of millions of years. And where do u think all of the carbon emissions go from those eruptions? They don' jus' go away. No, instead they build up in our atmosphere 'til mother nature finds a way ta get rid of it. Which, in my opinion, is why the Earth goes through Submergence Periods, if u believe in the Theory. I'm not sayin' that Mankind isn' contributin' ta this phenomenon, I'm sayin' that a there r many ppl pressin' a "panic button" that doesn' exist. Life has existed through these Periods 'fore, it can suvive through them again.

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Scourge

Joe, we are not disputing the fact that volcanoes pore out tons upon tons of carbon and other fun chemicals into the air, we get that. But if you take into the account of the billions of cars, the millions of factories and the millions of homes, and trillions of smaller other causes that we Humans contribute will add up to several moderate volcanoes erupting 24 hours a day 7 days a week for 365 days a year. Global warming doesn’t go up one point at a times, it grows exponesialy.

Joe Mage

Maybe I'm gettin' ppl confused here, the point that I'm tryin' ta get at is that scientists cannot prove, one way or another, if mankind is really the cause of all of the carbon gases in the atmosphere or that we're really doin' as much damage ta our atmosphere as some would like ta lead us ta believe. I'm usin' the Theory as a measurin' rod ta show that there is an equally strong possibility that what's goin' on with our world could very well b a natural occurence and that we may not, necessarilly, b ta blame. And jus' 'cause this is happenin' doesn' mean that all of mankind is goin' ta become extinct, we simply jus' don' know enough ta call it one way or the other. Do I believe in stoppin' these factories, cars, and other human resources that can, and do, potentially damage our environment? Yes, but do I think that it's the cause for the Hole in the O-zone layer, the higher temperatures, the meltin' of the Polar Ice Caps, and the risin' Oceans; and do I think that if we were able ta stop all of the man-made carbon emissions tommorow, that it would stop the change that our Earth is goin' through? Inna word, no. And I don' think that we're doomed ta extinction 'cause of that change, there r far worse things ta fear of becomin' extinct from.

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