Spymonk

Don't refrain justy do it let get this on the road and on the pages...Now u have me interested in what u did not say.
So by the way explain the term Spirit Monk...pls...

kedar

There might have been a chance, but from the looks of it, there wasn't, so there came suffering. I can add more to this, but I am super tired. Need sleep. Sorry. I will add more later. ^_^
Once I clarify from my Master, I will be more than happy to add on what I wanted to say. You see, I am still learning, so I don't want to ask or add something that I am not totally sure of. But, I will once I ask my Master. Wait for it, please. Anyway! Who are Spirit Monks? There are one of the classes of Monks, who are...it is hard to describe here because the ranking isn't simple to understand. I will try to explain by PM!

P.S. Oh, I am a Warrior Monk!

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Spymonk

Ok thanks i will wait...A worrior monk so u into the arts martial i mean and that kind of training now... more than another.

therebel

How does any of this have to do with the proof of whether reincarnation can be proven and how you feel about that?

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SinfulDesires

I think it could happen. We have no proof whether its true or not. We won't really know until we die I guess. =/

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Shinku no kage

I think itz possible but then again there's no way that anyone can prove that it can or cannot.

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Soshi Kitai

Yeah, therebel... how can you prove God exists? How can you prove science exists? How can you prove that what our senses tell us is true? How can you prove that proof is proof? How can you prove that proof is true?

So in other words...no matter how "CONCRETE" proofs may be, it still doesn't mean anything according to those who realize that everything can be an illusion, even the word itself.

^u^ But of course, that's when you create the thing called "FAITH"... what you said was rather rude, but we understand.

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Lighting Count

you make a vaild point there Soshi, but there is some reason for this reality that we live in.To say a obvious fact may not be a fact, because proof may not be proof is not logical.And this is a logical world we live in, the question i've been asking on this thread are to find some logic in reincarnation.But what i belive this thread will come down to is religon.

and Soshi i was hoping you could answer this questin for me, Is there a possibilty that every soul from the beginning of the cycle was able to attian salvation without ever being reincarnated?

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therebel

I think it can be proven. After all, I don't believe you can be reincarnated as a bike seat. Humans reincarnate as humans. So comparing near death experiences to still-born births you may find a conection.

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Spymonk

I think what we need to do is set aside all the wanna bee opinions and work this out Logically...
1.If u die the spirit and the Soul leave the dead body.
2.All ppl born have a soul and a spirit animal have a soul aswell right...
3.If u reincarnate u can only reincarnate into something that does not already have a soul and spirit .

Ok taking all that in mind in the thinking process my logical process says that a if u wanna reincarnate say u wanna u can only reincarnated into something that doesn't have a soul and spirit because -- i say this is if u do it with a person 's spirit and soul still intacked that is then called something else like posession.
Now there is two ways to be posessed either temporarily or permanent in other words the person u were before u got posessed is locked away[kind off] and the spirit that posessed u is the one in charge.
So what we must do is not confused the whole argument but u cannot take over a humans body by possesion if they don't invite u in the spirit that is.

So think about that and lets hear how logical u think about this, this is not a religeous answer we seek if it exist or not the matter to discuss is if it is possible.

Celenetan