Scourge (Jul 09, 2009)
The reason you go to war doesn't matter. What matter is that you win. And while they have killed many U.S. Service man it is estimated that 1 million Mujahideen have gone to meet allah. Now of course that is just an estimate but using the standard some estimates are 650,000 even the liberals argee that we have killed far more of them then they have of us. And that is the standard I use of whether we are winning or not. And we are.
Scourge (Jul 09, 2009)
i support our military to the fullest of intents, but we went into a country this time that did nothing to us, but did a good thing for them. yet were still in the country that no matter the course will still fight with the other mid eastern countries around it. It has always been like that, and will not change, the military cannot be nurse maids forever when another threat could come from another country, that more likley is a bigger threat.
the US military will not be on top forever, so staying in this country that now is able for the most part to take of itself, is only hurting our cause. many countries do not like the USA for whatever reason they have, so in the end result this could be bad for our country if another was to come and take over. Its better for us to just take care of ourselves for now and just regroup intstead of spending money where were not needed anymore, let alone another counrty that we'll most likley spend another 5 or more years in trying to change them as well.
we have cause to do what we need to do to protect our people and ways, in all of the wars we have entered. WWI was neautral for the most part other than we were sending supplies to our allies to fight germany.
WWII hilter would have eventually come after us even if he had not killed US citizen upon a passing ship he decided was in the wrong. While this was going on, in europe in WWI and II japan decided they wanted more territory and attacked china, all the way down into some parts of the islands and a US military vessel in hawaii which they wanted back that we had taken from them some time earlier, while we were fighting across the other ocean. they had been building their own vessels in secret and planning an attack of their own the whole time.
im kinda vague on alot of the details since its been awhile since my american history classes, which i didnt like taking to begin with, but its a basic discription of what i remember, and hopefully its not too wrong
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!beast (Jul 09, 2009)
The U.S. had NO place in Iraq after the 9/11 attack! Afghanistan is home to more Al' Bhed--I mean Al' Queda (spelling) than any other country. If memory serves correct, most of the government there IS Al' Queda.
Osama Bin Laden LIVES in Afghanistan for Christ's sake!
It's about damn time we started sending troops there. We should've been fighting there instead of Iraq. Saddam Hussein posed no *immediate* threat to us. We could've waited to get rid of that guy--but no... Bush just had to fight daddy's war. Iraq isn't at war with us anymore. That war ended 21 days after it started. Now, it's just two different sects of Muslims waging battle of biblical proportions and we're just there to be the mediator, basically. Problems there will never be solved. I mean never... Never, ever, ever, ever; never!
Let's all hope that this crap in Afghanistan ends soon... Chaos_Tempest (fellow AO member and close friend of mine) will be there at the end of the month. Wish him luck!
Atom ant... (Hope you don't mind if I call you that, Atom Ant is cool)... Ever sense 9/11 we have had forces in Afganastan, its not like we are just sending them in now, we have been there far longer then Iraq. Once again the reason why we got involved in Iraq was because we thought Iraq had WMDs because Sadamised Hussain barred any UN weapons inspecters from the country. Also a word of note is that we were not the only ones thinking they had it, there were many other countries who believed they did as well and also wanted us to go in and take out Iraq to provent them from possibly suppling biological and chemical weapons to terrorist cells. Well we figured out that they did not have WMDs but sense we kind of beat the crap out of the Iraqy military and their Gov. structure it was our responsibility in cleaning up after our selves.
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Still, nothing is ever truly good or bad. Everything has a plus side. Doesn't the embargo have a lot to do with Japan's success in big industry in the same way that Germany invented Fully Synthetic motor oil because they couldn't rely on foreign country's to supply them with traditional oil?
I'll admit, most of my knowledge on war revolves around Iraq were I have personal experience.
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