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    Undercover Genocide of A Sacred Nation

    According to Ward Churchill, a professor of ethnic studies at the University of Colorado, not only were Native Americans the victims of genocide in the 1800s but are still victims of genocide to the present day. The reduction of the North American Indian population from an estimated 12 million in 1500 to barely 237,000 in 1900 represents a "vast genocide . . . , the most sustained on record."

    In Professor Churchill's book, 'Kill the Indian, Save the Man: The Genocidal Impact of American Indian Residential Schools' he clearly makes the point that Native Americans were taken by force from their home and stripped from their culture. Some may say that thay was in the early 1900s and is not going on to day. However I really beg to differ. In classrooms today there are no pictures of the great chiefs of the past, but there is every picture of the Untied States President. Also in histroy books, there is nothing there that states barely or anything at all of Native American. But the stundents are taught about each President and how they dealt with not only Native American but African Americans and all other "minority groups".

    Native American History is almost extinct becuse the Elders are gone and the youth are lost the poverty, drugs, alcohol, and violence. No is left to teach the ways of the Ancestors.... the governemt of the U.S.A made sure of that.
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    Re: Undercover Genocide of A Sacred Nation

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    But is this really the result of a government conspiracy? As tragic as the loss of Native American Indian culture is, if you were given the choice of living in a skin hut, with the 'natural' benefits of living in a stone knives and bear skins stone age society, or living in a modern condo with central heating, hot and cold running water and flat panel TV, what would you choose???

    It takes more then simple campfire stories and history books to sustain a culture. No matter how you look at it, the myths and legends of a stone age culture are basically incompatible with a industrial/technological society. Even if the ethnic cleansing campaigns of the 18th, 19th and 20th Centuries hadn't occurred, exposure, and social/cultural contamination from a industrial society would have eventually destroyed their culture...
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    Re: Undercover Genocide of A Sacred Nation

    Quote Originally Posted by LenMiyata View Post
    Grumble Grumble Grumble

    It takes more then simple campfire stories and history books to sustain a culture. No matter how you look at it, the myths and legends of a stone age culture are basically incompatible with a industrial/technological society. Even if the ethnic cleansing campaigns of the 18th, 19th and 20th Centuries hadn't occurred, exposure, and social/cultural contamination from a industrial society would have eventually destroyed their culture...
    I agree with you to a certain point.

    Yes. Simple tales and myths won't make a culture last long. But, most every other cultural group here in America can tell you the history of thier people from the creation of Adam to the formation of a country. The fact that there are less Native Americans here than there were say, oh.... 400 years ago is a major contributor to the reasons why thier culture is dying so quickly. Another reason is multi-racial pro-creation. I know hundreds of black/mixed people who (including myself) have a substantial amount of Native blood in them. But that's not enough to keep the culture alive. In fact it taints it worse.

    Not a single Native will look at a "half-breed" the same way they look at thier own people. Which is why one of my closest friends moved back to MN from Omaha, NE. If the Native Americans want thier culture to live throughout the ages, they need to make a stand. A casino is just ensuring that thier people have financial means of survival, but where's the real legacy for the Native people? I heard some crazy statistic on television a couple years back that said that Native Americans won't even exist by the year 2030. But I'm not gonna say I believe it, because the same program said America's primary language will be Spanish by the same year. ^_^


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    Native Americans (like myself. I am a full-blood) it's not just about the point that campfires and books can substain a culture but it's the fact that the government wanted to wipe out a entire culture and a way of life just because we were a ''uncilivized" people and did not live or believe like them.

    As atomik_sprout pointed out about "mixed bloods" is ture. But the casino is not part of the movement trying to restore who Native Americans really are. In fact most Native American tribes vote against the casino, but because of the corruption in our tribal offices run by the Bearu of Indian Affairs aka B.I.A which is a branch of the U.S. government have some how manage to overthrow the Tibal Council votes everytime and destroy land that belongs to the tribes. Not only the casinos, but oil and uranium sites as well are being bulit on land that does not belong to the government.

    So the undercover Genocide of American Indians is still happening today. Kinda of a rude awakening isn't it? To know that a race is on the brink of extinction.
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    Re: Undercover Genocide of A Sacred Nation

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight_child View Post
    Native Americans (like myself. I am a full-blood) it's not just about the point that campfires and books can substain a culture but it's the fact that the government wanted to wipe out a entire culture and a way of life just because we were a ''uncilivized" people and did not live or believe like them...
    At the same time, history books also ignore the case where Chinese laborers brought in to this country to work on the transcontinental railroad, and first generation Japanese immigrants were not allowed to become naturalized citizens because of the Asian Exclusion Act, or that the US occupation of the Spanish territory now known as Florida was never authorized by the Congress. Or that immigration quotas of Eastern Europeans were influenced by the Eugenics movement towards racial purity. Or the persecution of the Mormon sect that drove them into self-imposed exile in the territory of Utah. Why is the exclusion of Native American Indian culture any different?

    The reality is that all the school hours available in the four years of High School can't possibly cover in detail all the sins thats been committed by this nation. And why do you think its the government responsibility to take on the interests of what is clearly a minority group interest's. If there is so much fear about a possible Federal Government conspiracy suppressing their own history and culture, then why doesn't the minority group take up its own responsibility to do this?
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    Re: Undercover Genocide of A Sacred Nation

    Well maybe its not my position to say anything but if you believe that your culture is being killed off by the government, and there are no longer any elders to teach. Then why do you not try to teach the children yourself.

    Not trying to offend any one but all I'm saying is that if you want change you have to try some thing instead of talking about it. With all of this election mumbojumbo going on right now why don't you try to see if one of the candidates understand your position.

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    Re: Undercover Genocide of A Sacred Nation

    Quote Originally Posted by LenMiyata View Post
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    The reality is that all the school hours available in the four years of High School can't possibly cover in detail all the sins thats been committed by this nation. And why do you think its the government responsibility to take on the interests of what is clearly a minority group interest's. If there is so much fear about a possible Federal Government conspiracy suppressing their own history and culture, then why doesn't the minority group take up its own responsibility to do this?
    But it is that really a reason to ignore the indigenous people of America? Aren't native Americans a part of American History as everything else is? As was stated in the first post - kids learn about every single president in America yet, they can't learn about the true first people of America?

    It's not really about a government conspiracy, it's not really (and shouldn't) be about learning about the 'sins' of what happened - it's about a culture getting recognition of their exisitance their land rights their history, their identity and to a lot of indigenous people around the world it is very important to their culture and to them.

    There is plenty of time for schools to in their history programs to start from the bare roots - the native indigenous people, then work your way up. Schools don't have to go into every little detail unless they want to. Every American should know of who was here first and the plight they went through.

    Though I agree that, they should take up and speak out about it - because that's where it has to start with them making noise and getting their point of view across, they obviously are going to want to help themselves first.

    Moon_light child, you should step up and fight for the recognition your people deserve.

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    Re: Undercover Genocide of A Sacred Nation

    The trouble with teaching Native American history in general, on a nation-wide scale is pretty simple: Native Americans were tribal, fragmented, kept few records and rely largely on an oral history full of different religious mythology. We don't teach Christian creation, why would we teach Navajo creation? Or Hopi creation? Or Iroquoi creation?

    Most states DO have intensive Native American history units covering their own local tribes. In New York, we spent half a year in both the 5th and 6th grades learning about the Iroquois Six Nations, going on field trips to indian museums and building our own bark longhouses as a project. In high school we learned about the Trail of Tears, the French and Indian War, how Columbus didn't really discover America, how Cortez and a bunch of smallpox-infected blankets screwed the Native community... We watched "Dances With Wolves" at school, had "Island of the Blue Dolphins" and "Julie of the Wolves" read to us out loud in the 4th grade... We had Native American dance troupes dance in our auditorium.

    I'm not exactly sure what else we're supposed to be taught... and where we're going to get the time to be taught even MORE material in an already-packed, test-filled academic schedule.

    I don't feel as though I haven't been taught Native American history... to the contrary, I think we learned more about it than we did most OTHER kinds of history.

    How much do you know about the Internment of Japanese Americans? The Chinese who built most of our railroad infrastructure? The Quakers? The Mormons? The Amish? The Pennsylvania Dutch?

    Not much, I'll bet.

    But if you want to learn more, you can go to this great place called UNIVERSITY or THE INTERNET The former offers intensive courses on all sorts of poeples, cultures and nations: the latter is free for the browsing any time and accessable from just about any library in the country.

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