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Old Feb 13, 2007, 02:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: What have we become?!!?!??!

what the hell is this?! a "gundam seed" paradox?! eventually "naturals" versus "coordinators".
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Old Feb 13, 2007, 08:49 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: What have we become?!!?!??!

I don't think that it is stupid at all. Instead of waiting on donors to die why not use the resources available. If a heart, brain, or other body part is available in another animal and it could save a life or improve a life why wouldn't you want to use it? I think it makes pretty good sense and will do more good than bad in the long run.
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Old Feb 13, 2007, 01:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: What have we become?!!?!??!

ok guys this is nothing like FMA these arent talking animals... these are animals that have human brains to test on... which in essence is testing on humans... which is wronger than testing on animals
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Old Feb 13, 2007, 02:14 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: What have we become?!!?!??!

i dident say it was like fma i just said it makes me think about it,as for what there doing i dont think its right to do eny testing on animals or humans.
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Old Feb 13, 2007, 02:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: What have we become?!!?!??!

Wow.

It's actually a little scary if you think about it.

I mean..if it's to help the human race, then I guess it's alright..but only if it's to help us. Other than that..this is just wrong. [Scientists] are just playing God.

I think it's wrong. I don't know how meshing human cells with animal cells will better the human race....
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Old Feb 13, 2007, 03:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
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"Chinese scientists at the Shanghai Second Medical University in 2003 successfully fused human cells with rabbit eggs. The embryos were reportedly the first human-animal chimeras successfully created. They were allowed to develop for several days in a laboratory dish before the scientists destroyed the embryos to harvest their stem cells."

Yeah, that's not immoral at all. Neither is the idea of harvesting these chimeras just to "grow" spare parts for humans. You know, cause what creature wouldn't want to be created in order to die. There's nothing wrong with that at all............
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Old Feb 13, 2007, 04:44 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: What have we become?!!?!??!

Look, nothing wrong with animals "being as smart as us" or as "humanlike as us"... the problem is the experimentation upon such animals to cause it so.

If there was a mouseman that came up to you and just wanted to be friends... I would guess you would probably kill them and prejudize all of the other chimeras...

And guess what, it'll be another RACISM that'll outlfank the rest.

...but let me get this feeling off of me before I explode: So what you're trying to say is that we should keep all animals caged and below us, and whenever we want we can destroy their homes for our shelter and destroy the very world they live in??? Because you said "ever think if they ahve human brains there gonna be as smart as us???", that obviously means you wouldn't want them to be as smart as us... to have our "advantages". Afraid they're going to hunt us for the inhumanities we have caused unto their families? Afraid that these such beasts are going to "rule" us because we're inadequate as rulers? Or are you afraid that such dirty beasts should never tread on the same road as we do?

If you were saying this out of religion, then you wouldn't have included the "they're going to be as smart as us" comment.
This is obviously prejudice against animals...


BUT! I will admit there is something wrong with such experimentation... but I don't believe that if one was created that we should destroy it.
If we were to ever destroy one, then let me put on an example of a human being if he were "destroyed by God": "You created me... I had no choice but to live... and if I am a mistake, why should I be? While all others are out there living and smiling, I am to be banished forever because I am a gravity to your eyes?! What fairness is this? To create me just to humiliate and then destroy me?! How ridiculous! This is outrageous! This is sick! This is inhumane!" *poof goes the person*

...so you would kill something that we created because "IT WAS CREATED"???

Look, if it was the Devil incarnate, sure, kill him. But he's just as innocent as any creature born onto this earth! So we're going to kill them if we just "made a mistake"??!!! HOW RIDICULOUS!

... *ahem*

But we haven't made them yet, so I shouldn't start pointing fingers yet.
Afterall, for now, they're just "enhancements" in science... nothing "ungodly" yet.
They're here to help, not as an actual creature, just parts...
So, for now, I'll try to calm down.


The fact of the matter is: It is ridiculous to fuse two "unfated" bloods together... but if made, we shouldn't be so quick to judge. We should not kill the product, but the creator, for the product has done no harm (yet).

If however, such a creature were to cause ANYONE harm, we should judge it as we judge all things... not as an inanimate object.

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Old Feb 13, 2007, 05:52 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: What have we become?!!?!??!

OMGSH! I couldnt have said it better! Soshi u wrote down all my confussed ideas in well organized paragraphs 0_0 ty

so personally I would like u Sasuke Is Emo to develop more wut u r saying... cuz I dun see how something thats WAY beyod ur understanding can be stupid...
now... the benefits of wut I think would be the early stages of this "project" could be greately benefitial for the mankind... medicaly speaking...
from then on... we could say in the advanced stages of this "project"... like creating another living being... it would envolve 2 much ethical and moral issues to talk about them now(CUZ IT HASSENT HAPPEND YET!)...

on a side note... I would like to hear wut a white tiger(creation of this "project") would had to say. Im sure it would be something like: "WUT THE F**K IS WRONG WITH U PPL!?"
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