Miroku4444

Ive learned some interesting things about this religion. I hear they consider Black People second class citizens. When blacks get to heaven they don't have the same rights or status as the whites. So even in heaven they're 2nd class citizens.

Also they believe in polygamy. Which now they claim they don't, as well as the racist thing. In other words they say they changed, Which i don't believe, when all this stuff is still written in their version of the bible.

I was shocked when i heard this, i always though they were so religious and godly, and none of this sounds godly to me at all.

So are the Mormons a bunch of racist polygamists?

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ketaro

Little do they know that Jesus Christ was brown.

Well, i think that they misinterpret the Bible or they just made up a f&&ed up version of the Bible. Polygamy was ok back in the days of Salomon, heck the guy had tons of wives all over Jerusalem. I believe that's their reason to believe and practice polygamy, though i may be mistaken since i only have heard those facts about them from people that have been involved in one way or another with Mormons.

ihauntforlust

well that sort of sucks,

I'm not a Catholic...I'm a Muslim and i don't believe that either...How would they know that the Black people would be treated as second class in heaven?

I mean com'on they're lots of different religions with different beliefs...and all should respect others along with their beliefs...

And you're right this doesn't sound Godly at all.

Well...It does completely sound as if they're a bunch of racist polygamists but If they believe that...Let them...I don't consider this as a war type that we should argue about,

Plus I respect all religions so ....i...dunno..... -.-

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Miroku4444

Sounds like that violates the 7th commandment to me? You know dont commit adultery.

Actually Mormons are a separate religion, there not catholics. Were(Catholics) strongly against polygamy.

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ketaro

Well, yes it does. I guess the Bible contradicts itself most of the time. See, the 10th commandments were handed down by God to Moses to teach the Israelis the law of God, but yet still some of the greatest Kings of Jerusalem still practiced polygamy.

Lupas

I BELIEVE!!! being ignorant isn't against the law, nor is being a racist, and come on imagine the size of the alomoney payments.

TetsuoShima9

Most Mormans are not polygamists, but some people are. The Jesus Christ Church of Later Day Saints has rulled out polygamey, but some people have made there own churchs because they beilieve in polygamey. I've never heard about them thinking black people are second-class citizens in heaven.

Peach_follows

I always knew about the polygamy. But not the whole racial thing.

I used to live in a predominately black neighborhood..., The Mormons would go up and down the streets recruiting (for lack of a better term). Im sure that wouldn't have gone so well had they been walking up to people saying "Would you like to be a second class citizen in the promised land?, You'd be walking...almost most next to God.. y'know... after white people..."

Polygamy almost makes sense to me... Not that Id be down to be a second or third wife, but I feel monogamy is a tad unrealistic. Provided most people cheat or divorce or both. Perhaps it is marriage that is unrealistic.

But yeah... I used to invite the Mormons over so they could convert me. (God, I was bored). They were very helpful... They brought me milk and toilet paper when I ran out. And I listened, mostly so I could question them and debate.. but I listened. Then they wanted me to switch my tea (saying consuming what was in mine was against God's will)... Thats when it all fell apart. No one messes with my tea!

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Arrianna

Well since I am LDS I will answer this. Simply, you have heard wrong. I am not surprised however since there is a lot of misinformation out there complicated by the fact that there is several schisms from the LDS church just as there are many schisms from the Catholic church, our own Protestants if you will. However most people who don't really know the LDS religion don't realize that they aren't the same church or just don't care. Since most of these schisms still call themselves "Mormons" you have to be careful when hearing things like that and make sure who they are talking about.

Now about the misinformation on Blacks. Put simply it has to do with the priesthood. If you know the Bible you know that Blacks are supposed to be descended from Cain through Egyptus wife of Ham. The priesthood was withheld from that line in Ancient times. When the Church was founded it was done so on the original teachings and priesthood authority at the time of Christ. Recognition of that restriction to the lineage of Cain was a part of that. In 1978 however the Prophet Spencer W. Kimball was instructed by God that the time had come for that restriction to be lifted and since that time any man, no matter the lineage, may hold the priesthood as long as they live up the the standards. There are no restrictions after death either. Anyone who tells you there are are either misinformed or personally bigoted. It does happen.

Secondly, polygamy. I am not surprised that you have misheard about this since I run into a lot of members who have never taken the time to learn either. There seems to be an attitude that if their ancestors did it it must be alright. I can't be surprised by that since I run into that attitude everywhere. Someone on this forum once said that it must be all right to marry a 13 year old bride because their grandfather (not sure the greats there) had done it.

So here is the facts.

The LDS church does not believe in polygamy except when God himself expressly calls for it through his Prophet. The Book of Mormon tells us he does so for the intent of "raising up a righteous generation" which would explain why in the Bible whenever you had prophets living solitary in the midst of corruption and disbelief they usually had more then one wife. The polygamy as practiced by the LDS church was done so for a short number of years, regulated with strict requirements for the care of the wives and children, had to be approved, and when the Prophet said the time was finished the members were warned of the destruction they would face if they didn't obey. Since then any member who engages in said behavior is excommunicated for breaking Gods laws of one man and one wife.

I hope I explained that clearly. If not please let me know.

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Miroku4444

So the LDS church does believe in it in some situations. Thats what my friend must have heard. So they don't practice it at all today Arrianna? Whats to stop some Mormon priest from claiming hes a prophet and getting whole community into polygamy? With all this said its still tolerated in your version of the bible, and i cant see how that is allowed seeing the other bible has a commandment against it.

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Arrianna

Because he doesn't have the authority. Being Catholic that should make perfect sense to you. Every Priesthood holder can trace their authority back to the original Apostles and Christ. There are very clear lines of authority as a result including just who the Prophet is. It would be like a Bishop declaring himself Pope. They can do it, and they can even get followers, but it doesn't change who is really in charge of the Church. Mind you your hypothesis is perfectly legitimate since that is exactly what has happened with a few of the schisms.

Now I have a question for you? Just where is this commandment against polygamy in the Bible? we use the King James Bible so obviously it is a Protestant version (tradition and all) but as far as I know the only command against polygamy in the Bible was in the rules set exclusively for the Kings of Israel. I would love to know your reference.

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