But some Emo's seriously go over the top, i don't mind some of their music but i really dislike their sense of fashion i mean skinny jeans on a lad lmao in my opinion! It's like ok...but goths have the worse of the four groups of fashion sense, what we find normal they find crazy what we find crazy they find normal. When i see a pure goth i can just imagine them saying..."I know what you did last summer" In a dead creepy voice it's great ripping goths because they don't care about anything they are so depressed to care, if they kill themeselves welll thats their problem not ours. I think of it as hell one less goth, i am glad you didn't make a thread called why do people hate goths, otherwise i would have totally changed my opinion of your status, mind you if you were a goth hedgehog you wouldn't act like you do so i thank god for that. Emo's are the closest to normal out of the goth, chavs and emo selection. So theirs some credit. Do you wear them tight black and white or red scarfs, they are quite cool but hell losen it up! Well theres my true opinion following on from my first ever quote.