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Old Jul 17, 2006, 12:34 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Why we fight.

Hmmm...Is this discussed only among americans?
I think Bush is only aiming for the "black gold" u know wat it means...
Oil
The West of asia is the holder of 1/3 of oil supplier in the world...
If he got a hold to them he is filthy rich!
Once that happen America will be feared at...like now...xD
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Thats why Economy is important...^.^
Lets all get rich!!!
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Old Jul 17, 2006, 02:54 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Why we fight.

hmm.....you know when your just sitting watching tv, or in class, and your a bit bored...and your knee just starts rapidly jumping up and down and you cant control it. Its like a reflex, except its been building up for a while, a second nature that you cant get rid of....whats it called - wandering foot syndrome or something....?

Ive always thought that a good way to get rid of it is go out for a walk...
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Old Jul 17, 2006, 04:13 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Why we fight.

whoa....
i thought this thread is about 'why we fight'....

why Bush all of the sudden? (=_=)lll *sweat drop* aho....

why we fight?
emphasize once more: It is our nature. We fight using 2 methods:
1. Physically- Immatured's way of fighting.
2. Mentally-Matured's way of 'dealing'.

We fight for many reasons. It is our nature. We fight to get what we want. We fight with people to protect ourselves or love ones.

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Old Jul 17, 2006, 05:15 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Why we fight.

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That's the problem with wars. We start out to do something, then switch it, and by the end of the war, we don't get anything we were trying to get. America should've just let 9/11 slide, waste all these billions of dollars enhancing our own borders instead of fighting the old fight. The fight we can never win.
thats all bull
we dont need to enhance our border security
America has the technologically most advance country for now
they already knew about that attack on 9/11 they let it happen
jets would have been scrambled the few minutes that plane went off course
America let them hit those towers
have you seen those videos one building crumbled on itself which wasnt even hit
they just wanted an excuse to get into iraq
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Old Jul 17, 2006, 05:22 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Why we fight.

Saddam didn't have WMD but he threatened to use them! Would we just leave him and let it get blown out of proportion and maybe end up with a nuclear war!?! Its was only a matter of time until someone gave them to him! And besides America originally supported and helped Saddam at first! Hes there responsibility, and someone had to stop him!
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Old Jul 17, 2006, 06:33 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Re: Why we fight.

Ahhh... so sorry. It took me a minute because I haven't had any internet since I left Iraq, 22 hours ago... So once again I am probably going to tick off a few people.

First of all, anyone who says we are in Iraq for oil, why are the gas prices so high? You would think that if we came to get oil, that the prices would go down because we would own it.

Secondly, why the HELL would we let entire plaefulls of innocent people die on purpose?! Why would anyone say that? You are sadly mistaken and apparently see our country through eyes of hatred. If you have any respect for your country you would rule that out quickly.

Third, what's the thing with fighting mentaly rather than physically. I have seen what trying to reason with terrorists results in. They are fighting in the name of their religion. Reason has no bearing on them. It's not like we can just tell them, "say sorry for blowing up the twin towers" Your reasoning makes no sense. Only someone who is infact imature themselves would come to this conclusion. When you get old enough to see how the world really works, repost.

After all this, what's my opinion on the subject? There are two,

1. That America saw Iraq as a future threat and knew that when the twin towers incident happened, action needed to be taken.

2. Saddam was not only an enemy to us, but also to his own people. He robbed, gassed, and suppressed the people of his country that did not believe in his religion.

Stop hating on the U.S. Government because of what you see on the news. In case you didn't notice, they only show the bad things that happen. This is true for everything including what's happening in our own country. I talked to a bunch of Australian troops in Kuwait. I asked them if they had ever been to America. They responded, "Nope. And never plan to." I asked them why and they said, "Because there's too much violence." I realized that the only stuff they see about America is on the tv news. And the news only puts out bad info. Remember this.
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Old Jul 17, 2006, 06:43 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Re: Why we fight.

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thats all bull
we dont need to enhance our border security
America has the technologically most advance country for now
they already knew about that attack on 9/11 they let it happen
jets would have been scrambled the few minutes that plane went off course
America let them hit those towers
have you seen those videos one building crumbled on itself which wasnt even hit
they just wanted an excuse to get into iraq

some of the points that tony is making is correct. we are in fact the most technologically advance country. also we would have "scrambled" jets, but not the minute that they went off course,
1st- planes go off course all the time
2nd- we did "scramble" planes but not as fast as people thought we should have

personally i like people who make up phony conspiracy theorys, but not when it comes to people "making fun of" 9/11
thousands of people were killed and it was not to go into Iraq, we are in Iraq for the wrong reasons BUT this is not one of them
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Old Jul 17, 2006, 04:26 PM   #30 (permalink)
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It seems that there is allot of debate and question over why we are fighting in Iraq. Some say we are there for oil some say we are there to liberate and deter terrorism. So what I want to know is what do you think we are fighting for? Are we fighting for freedom, or has our military become a tool for appeasing America's corporate interests?

As for me I don't really know, for the moment it doesn't look like we are getting any oil from Iraq becuase we are still in a gas crisis. So it's only logical to assume that we are there as liberators.
although i usually try not to bother with pilotics and junk such as this, i believe it is either one of three things: Oil (i heard somewhere our current oil won't last 50 years), Terrorism, or just because President Bush wants to push a blame onto another place. not to be rude, but he screwed us up even more by placing us this predicament...
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Re: Why we fight.

i heard the same rumer but its lie byt the oil cmapny so
they can purposly raise gas prices to take su for all we have
pretty soon your gonna have to walk to your vacation spot
as high as the gas is. we are fighting pretty much for big buisness
and nothing else
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Old Jul 18, 2006, 01:06 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Why we fight.

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Stop hating on the U.S. Government because of what you see on the news. In case you didn't notice, they only show the bad things that happen. This is true for everything including what's happening in our own country. I talked to a bunch of Australian troops in Kuwait. I asked them if they had ever been to America. They responded, "Nope. And never plan to." I asked them why and they said, "Because there's too much violence." I realized that the only stuff they see about America is on the tv news. And the news only puts out bad info. Remember this.
I agree living in Australia and I'm sure it's in other countries aswell there is alot of anti-Americanism around and thats mainly due to the fact that the media only shows the bad things about America especially violence. Most people think that they can't go to New York for example without getting mugged
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What does the name of the one who started the thread mean?
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