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Old Mar 17, 2007, 01:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Are you an "adult"?

well its kind of tricky...
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But this could come with its own set of issues; for instance, students who go to directly from high school to college at 18, and live off campus in an apartment. Would they be able to open bank accounts, sign a lease, or set up bills in their own names if they aren't considered adults?
I know a couple of people that got their first house when they were 25. If they would have needed to be 21 to be legal adults and with the issues that gren described, I don't think any of them would have been able to accomplish that.
Raising the age for being legal would not only affect the legal part of people's lives(issues described by gren and more) but also the social/psychological part. Maturing is growing up in terms of physical appearance, behavior and thinking(took that form a dictionary) but we get to this point in our life's after we have our own experiences and learned about what we have lived. With more restrictions on young adults, they could probably take more time to mature.
Another factor we must consider, is the fact that mind and body may not mature at the same time.(this can lead to another topic so Im not going to develop on that one)
Raising the legal age just because of drugs(drinking, smoking, anything) wouldn't change much. As long as there is demand there will always be a way to supply.
A change in the age for being legal would also affect the economy.(I wont develop on this one either)
I don't think if someone is mature enough to be labeled as a legal responsible adult should be based on age. All of us mature at different times in our life's. But if we have to put an age into it I say it should be 18.
There are many ways in which a change legal age could affect the country, all of them too broad to begin to describe them(that way I didn't develop much on economy and body and mid not maturing at the same time). We need to consider all of them before we change it. And I don't think the reasons Arrianna gave are enough for a change to the legal age.
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Old Mar 17, 2007, 04:01 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Are you an "adult"?

^_^ i think that the voting age should stay at 18, it's never too early to start a good habit!

Go out and vote! You don't have a right to complain if you didn't and things aren't going the way you want! Voting is the one sure way to tell the government what's up!

>.> of course... there are other varying circumstances that affect it... but still! Vote! it's fun!

Anyways, back to the mainer(?) topic. I think that if everyone stopped caring so much about drinking, things would turn for the better! What's so great about alcohol? Being able to order a "Wierd Drink Thing n Rum" maybe fun and all, but how does it say that you've become the mature person you think you are? Cuz you can get drunk? Do you respect "adults" that drink to get drunk?

Another thing, perhaps if we treated children more maturly(?) from the start, maybe they wouldn't have such a hard time growing up.

Case n point, in the 1800s at the age of 14 you were married, were already apprenticed in a trade or helping/running a farm. Now, a lot of people think it's becuz they died at 40, so it's to get a jump start. However, what if that's a way to curb the need to prove adulthood by drinking and such? Children were treated as adults, and so they became responsible as adults would.

That in NO WAY says i agree with all their methods for children, including the Industrial Revolution (even though that was 1700s? i can't remember). Or that the people were so much better then, they certainly had faults too.

Just saing, children are not lesser beings becuz they don't understand the world. If you treat them with respect and as mature people, they will most likely respond positivly.
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Old Mar 17, 2007, 07:15 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Are you an "adult"?

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^_^ i think that the voting age should stay at 18, it's never too early to start a good habit!

Go out and vote! You don't have a right to complain if you didn't and things aren't going the way you want! Voting is the one sure way to tell the government what's up!
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I think that if everyone stopped caring so much about drinking, things would turn for the better! What's so great about alcohol? Being able to order a "Wierd Drink Thing n Rum" maybe fun and all, but how does it say that you've become the mature person you think you are? Cuz you can get drunk? Do you respect "adults" that drink to get drunk?
Nope. You should worry about drinking, no matter what your age is and / or how immature you are. Being an adult doesn’t necessarily have to come with brains and age. It comes from within themselves and how they react to a particular situation. About the adults getting drunken thing, if you’re older alcohol doesn’t affect you as much as when you’re 16 or 18, because it’s strong stuff. Even though everyone who takes alcohol more than they should they do get drunk but car accidents due to drink driving are more common in young people, let’s say 16-23 years?

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Case n point, in the 1800s at the age of 14 you were married, were already apprenticed in a trade or helping/running a farm. Now, a lot of people think it's becuz they died at 40, so it's to get a jump start. However, what if that's a way to curb the need to prove adulthood by drinking and such? Children were treated as adults, and so they became responsible as adults would.
Not everyone can make it, trust me They had old point of views. If you're 14 now and you're told to help run a business it's gonna be hard for some or most of the kids right? ^^; Depends.
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Old Mar 17, 2007, 08:27 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Are you an "adult"?

Well in Britain, you count as and Adult when your 18 as you can basically do everything a 21year old can. Except from drive an HGV (unless your in the army) or get cheaper car insurance

I personally don't care if I'm an adult or not. Sure, I can be mature when I want to and/or need to, but life is for living so you still need a small degree of childish in you. I believe a person is truley an adult when they actually take-on responsabilities and are able to manage them. I know a few people who are in their 30's that still have trouble going to work for a whole week and love to get drunk 3-4 times a week.
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Old Mar 17, 2007, 10:24 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Are you an "adult"?

Well... acording to Costarican Laws I became an adult when I turned 18.... If I am or not.... well... I can get serious and mature when the situation requires that from me... otherwise.... I chill out and live.

It is also how one takes the meaning of being adult. For me it is not a Party life.... parties are not for me.... so i don't define being on parties equals being adult. I define being adult when one learns to take responsabilities from oneself's actions....
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Old Mar 17, 2007, 04:07 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Are you an "adult"?

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Nope. You should worry about drinking, no matter what your age is and / or how immature you are. Being an adult doesn’t necessarily have to come with brains and age. It comes from within themselves and how they react to a particular situation. About the adults getting drunken thing, if you’re older alcohol doesn’t affect you as much as when you’re 16 or 18, because it’s strong stuff. Even though everyone who takes alcohol more than they should they do get drunk but car accidents due to drink driving are more common in young people, let’s say 16-23 years?
Well, i think that alcohol can have the same affect on a 16 year old as a 61 year old. An older brain is still a brain , and it can still be affected. You do have a point, but i think their brains are "used to" drinking, so i'm not sure if it's becuz they're adults.

And about drunk driving, yes, it is mostly teenagers who do it. But that's not to say that adults don't do it either! Mix with the fact that most teenagers don't really know how to drive in the first place, of course they're going to get in more accidents

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Not everyone can make it, trust me They had old point of views. If you're 14 now and you're told to help run a business it's gonna be hard for some or most of the kids right? ^^; Depends.
Like i said, i didn't agree with EVERYTHING they did back in the day. I do resepect the time and linancy we give to children who REALY do have probelms learning n such. Perhaps is we found a balance point it would work quite well..
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Old Mar 17, 2007, 04:49 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Are you an "adult"?

Yes I do belive that the age should be risen.
Especially the drinking age.There r too many kids out there getting in trouble.and if they raised the age limmit then it might just lower the amount of poeple that do drink.
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Old Mar 17, 2007, 04:53 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Are you an "adult"?

There are many people our there between their 20's and 30's and still act like teenagers. Hence, the title of adult doesn't necesseraly apply to those kinds of people, they just still don't want to accept the fact that they are not teenagers anymore.
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There are many people our there between their 20's and 30's and still act like teenagers. Hence, the title of adult doesn't necesseraly apply to those kinds of people, they just still don't want to accept the fact that they are not teenagers anymore.
Hey!!!! My body is not a teen anymore but my mind still being a teenager ev'ry now and then..... there is nothig wrong to have a young mind.....
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Old Mar 17, 2007, 06:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Yes I do belive that the age should be risen.
Especially the drinking age.There r too many kids out there getting in trouble.and if they raised the age limmit then it might just lower the amount of poeple that do drink.
Thats becose the drink age is the US is to high its 21 thats just to high, the reason i am saying this is becose when people finaly reach the drinking age they drink whit out supervision from somone how has experians whit alchohol.
The resolt is that they drink way to much becose they dont now there limits, this becose this is the first time he drinks.
It usely ends whit a blackout a hugh hangover but somtimes they drink so much that they end whit alcehol poisning.
In my country they only have a age limmit for the past two years(ever sinds reachers said it whas bad to drink under 16) for the past two years and there thinking about ending it it brings way to much problems whit it, people just don,t beleve in that reachers becose drinking at jong ages is normal in my country so evrybody just ignores the drinking law and evry one stil drinks alcehol.
The thing is when you drink at a jong age(by jong age i mean 12 til 14 years old) it hapens under supervision from somone how has experions whit alcehol such a family and frends so when you get to drunk the tel you to stop, that way the worst thing that can hapen is waking up whit a hangover.
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Old Mar 18, 2007, 05:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Hey!!!! My body is not a teen anymore but my mind still being a teenager ev'ry now and then..... there is nothig wrong to have a young mind.....
You are right there is nothing wrong with that, but some still want to do the stuff that only a teenager would do such as not taking responsabilities for their deeds.
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