+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 LastLast
Results 1 to 8 of 26

Thread: Should games be more simple or complex?

  1. #1
    Otaku Luminous is off to a good start
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    This is a User Title in disguise
    Posts
    224
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts

    Should games be more simple or complex?

    I was pondering over this conundrum the other day, and figured it'd be interesting to see everyone's opinion on the matter.

    I think it's fair to say that gaming has evolved since the days of Super Mario, where A was to jump, and d-pad was to move, and with flower power, you might just use B. As newer generations have arrived, button count has traditionally been upped each time, and usually have some analog sticks thrown in for good measure. This has allowed for more complexity and variety in what you can do in a game, but has it made it any more fun?

    This generation, Nintendo has switched things up a bit with their Wii design, going for depth in simplicity. If you look at a lot of third-party Wii games, you sometimes find odd configurations, since the standard 'Mote+ Chuk combo only have 4 readily accesible buttons, and people have to squeeze games that have typically used more into it. This led me to thinking, are all of these different functions needed? Surely we don't need 6-8 buttons to have a functional and depthy game, right?

    Well, that's my question to you AO. If all of the games in the world were made for you, would you want them to have depth in simplicity, or depth in complexity? Does more buttons and added functionality contribute to the fun factor through variety and added options, or is a immediately easy to play and figure out game more appealing? Is there a lucky balance betwen the two? What would it be?

    This can apply to all consoles and platforms by the way, the Wii was just an example. The question could just as easily be "Do 360 games end up funner with more buttons and combinations?".

    Post away!

  2. #2
    Otaku Zerosan9000 is off to a good start
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    an ocean of stars
    Posts
    103
    Thanks
    9
    Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts

    Re: Should games be more simple or complex?

    id have to say more complex cuz some games are great ideas but done so simple its no fun but im a hardcore gamer so thats natural to want more

  3. #3
    Otaku Hantei16 is off to a good start Hantei16's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    274
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts

    Re: Should games be more simple or complex?

    I'll say both, on a some-some degree. You're right, games these days require more button bashes and physical functionality but i don't think it was any better than the simpler games of before. Games are okay now, games are okay then...as a gamer i do experience the itch for more challenges in difficulty not in complexity. For me, the advancement and complexity of games nowadays is just part of some evolutionary scale or some kind of a requirement to keep the repetitiveness away.

    I find complexity and simplicity as positive traits of gaming, complexity gives us more things to do in a game. Simplicity gives us, well, simplicity.

    It doesn't matter for me if it is simple or complex, if it's a good game then it's a good game. Guitar Hero is quite fun with all those required buttons, but Super Mario gave me that much fun too...Ace Combat might make people feel like a real ace pilot, the classic R-TYPEs never made me feel that way but it gave me the same degree of fun and excitement, maybe even more.

  4. #4
    Slam Dunk Da Funk Soshi Kitai is making a name for themselves Soshi Kitai is making a name for themselves Soshi Kitai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Inbetween stuff.
    Posts
    1,414
    Thanks
    19
    Thanked 67 Times in 55 Posts

    Re: Should games be more simple or complex?

    SIMPLE ANSWER: BOTH

    To assume games out there should be more of something is ridiculous. There's more people who want to play a game than just hardcore gamers... and what of the oldschoolers? What can they look forward to?
    The fact is, there's all kinds of people out there in the world who would all love to play a game to pass the time, but they can never find the right game until now...

    As games evolved, it was just turning so complex that only the loser or nerd was assumed to be the only one to have the ability to play such a thing.
    Now many games have been simplified to a surprising degree... yet, both parties (casual gamer and hardcore gamer) are angry...

    Why is this?

    Simple answer: The simple games are no fun and too child-like, and the complex games are getting too short! Not to mention that the simple games are overflooding on one system, complex games are the only things available in another system that the library is barren, and the last system has too many of the SAME GAME that you might as well get rid of the other genres!


    We don't need to focus on making games complex or making them simple...
    Fact is, we almost mastered that part, now we need to focus on something else...

    How about we actually focus on a game that's 100% fun for everyone? How about we actually focus on a game that gives deep meaning to anyone that plays it? How about we actually focus on a game that knows when to stop and when to go? How about we actually focus on a game that can convert casuals into hardcore and hardcores into casual?
    ...yes, we do have those games, but they're just so few in number...

    Game designers, directors, and producers aren't focusing on the right things nowadays...
    They're too busy trying to keep their title that they forget about making a REAL step forward in gaming...

  5. #5
    anti-semantics Pub Quiz Champion tsurara may be famous one day tsurara may be famous one day tsurara's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Shikoku
    Posts
    1,308
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 84 Times in 55 Posts

    Re: Should games be more simple or complex?

    Both.

    There's more than enough room in the market (and my personal collection) for more than one sort of game. There's nothing wrong with enjoying both.

  6. #6
    Otaku kurapika is off to a good start kurapika's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    274
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts

    Re: Should games be more simple or complex?

    Quote Originally Posted by tsurara View Post
    Both.

    There's more than enough room in the market (and my personal collection) for more than one sort of game. There's nothing wrong with enjoying both.
    Agreed Tsurara
    there is more than enough room on the market for complex and simple games

    It depends on what game it is
    you could easily make games more complex or simple

    Example: People might want to make the Zelda series simpler because
    they cant complete it.

    so im my mind it really depends on what game should be made more simpler or complex

    great sig by Lasura thanks heaps

  7. #7
    Poultry Projectile Cannon Scourge is making a name for themselves Scourge is making a name for themselves Scourge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Oceanside CA
    Posts
    1,297
    Thanks
    476
    Thanked 171 Times in 152 Posts

    Re: Should games be more simple or complex?

    It really depends on the persons preferences. Some people like it complicated while other like it simple and other like it in between.

  8. #8
    Messenger of Despair Hive Hero Champion dark angel swordsman may be famous one day dark angel swordsman may be famous one day dark angel swordsman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    New York.
    Posts
    2,005
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts

    Re: Should games be more simple or complex?

    Quote Originally Posted by kurapika View Post
    Agreed Tsurara
    there is more than enough room on the market for complex and simple games

    It depends on what game it is
    you could easily make games more complex or simple

    Example: People might want to make the Zelda series simpler because
    they cant complete it.

    so im my mind it really depends on what game should be made more simpler or complex
    I second your opinion. There's really nothing wrong with a simple game as long as it's good. If it sucks, then it may be too simple? And complex games can also be fun. True gamers walk around the "simple" and "Complex" ideas and enjoy their games...providing they are good.
    http://www.animeonline.net/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=7987&dateline=1181515  689
    I won't let this world exist without me! If I die, we all die! / Avatar & Signature by anime_8000.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Lovely Complex
    By bbZuSh in forum Manga General Talk
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: Dec 16, 2007, 04:00 AM
  2. Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex
    By Bot:News in forum Industry News
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Feb 16, 2007, 02:00 AM
  3. The most complex anime?
    By MagnaCartana in forum Anime
    Replies: 47
    Last Post: Dec 21, 2006, 02:52 AM
  4. Entering the r-complex of rei during 3I
    By kantichaoslord in forum Spoiler Talk
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Jul 01, 2006, 04:58 PM
  5. A simple yet complex question....
    By swordfish3 in forum Debate and Discuss
    Replies: 46
    Last Post: Apr 19, 2006, 04:18 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts