yea but jiraiya taught konan and pain so they should know alot about him and vice versa and kisame is a member of the akatsuki and the only thing ive seen him do is fight guy sensei with a clone with 30% chakra and the clone lost if he was as good as you say then he shouldve killed him but still i feel jiraiya could kill kisame the only reason itachi and kisame had to escape jiraiya when trying to get naruto is because kisame is weak and itachi ran out of chakra using tsukuyomi twice, sharingan's special genjutsu reverse move, and amaterasu im sure it take alot of chakra to use he even said he was low on chakra