Questions about Zangetsu

ShinigamiDiomedes201 · Aug 19, 2007, 10:08 PM

I have got this question that been bothering me for some time, about Kurosaki's Zanpakuto, Zangetsu. When Ichigo first became a Shinigami, he was wielding what looked like a normal Zanpakuto, except for the fact that it was huge. Then it was broken by Kuchiki Byakuya, right? Then he learned that his Zanpakuto's name was Zangetsu, and released it. And now he carries that huge cleaver around in the unsealed state all the time. Was the first sword the sealed form of Zangetsu, and if it was, why can't Ichigo seal it back? I am fairly new to the Bleach series, and was wondering if the Bleach veterans here could answer this question for me.

*Mr. K* · Aug 20, 2007, 05:53 PM

Its explain in the Manga so I heard, but in the Anime its just Like this:

Ichigo powers are just to high.

It's kinda like Kenpachi Zaraki and his sword. Except Kenpachi Zaraki Doesn't know the name of this sword. Doesn't stop the fact that his sword is released. He's power is just strong like that.

You should wait to finish the show or Read the Manga.

click to show spoiler

Anywho !

To round it up Ichigo's Zanpakuto always in Shikai State.

EDIT::

I meant that it wont change back to normal because the user has enough spiritual pressure to sustain it. Like what Kenpachi Zaraki can do.

[END]

Shinku no kage · Aug 20, 2007, 06:02 PM

To add to what K just stated:

When Ichigo first became a Soul Reaper/Shinigami it was through using Rukia Kuchiki's powers, not of his own. His own Soul Reaper ability didnt come out til his training with Kisuke Urahara. So basically til the point Ichigo released his OWN powers as a soul reaper he was using his borrowed strength from Rukia. Could he have achieved Shikai and Bankai on borrowed power? That I have no idea...^^;

ShinigamiDiomedes201 · Aug 20, 2007, 06:53 PM

Thanks you guys, it was really helpful! One funny thing I noticed though, is that you two are both actual Veterans in AO. When I said "Bleach veterans", I meant those people who have watched/read it more than me

. That doesn't matter though, your help was excellent, I just noticed it and thought it was slightly funny.

hendo24 · Aug 23, 2007, 02:47 PM

Hi ive been wondering about zangetsu, ive been thinking that the hallow inside ichigo has been thier from the start but it seemed to be dominated by zangetsu itself, yet later in the series the hallow claimed that it itself was infact zangetsu! i was ondering if anyone had any views on this and any theorys on whats actually going on in poor old ichigos head :P

ShinigamiDiomedes201 · Aug 23, 2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hendo24

Hi ive been wondering about zangetsu, ive been thinking that the hallow inside ichigo has been thier from the start but it seemed to be dominated by zangetsu itself, yet later in the series the hallow claimed that it itself was infact zangetsu! i was ondering if anyone had any views on this and any theorys on whats actually going on in poor old ichigos head :P

Yeah, I was kinda wondering about that, too... I guess that also has something to do with the way that Hollow mask keeps getting found on Ichigo's person. Hmmm... some kind of enlightenment would be helpful....

hendo24 · Aug 25, 2007, 12:16 AM

I guess it`ll all be revealed some time! but god damn thier taking thier time the episodes these days! i havent seen ichigo look better then average for a LONG time now lol

deftbeat · Aug 25, 2007, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hendo24

Hi ive been wondering about zangetsu, ive been thinking that the hallow inside ichigo has been thier from the start but it seemed to be dominated by zangetsu itself, yet later in the series the hallow claimed that it itself was infact zangetsu! i was ondering if anyone had any views on this and any theorys on whats actually going on in poor old ichigos head :P

zangetsu and ichigo's hollow represents ichigo's strength, its like a yin and yang for example, the hollow took over zangetsu because of ichigo's frustation to protect his friends from being hurt.
in my opinion ^^

hendo24 · Aug 28, 2007, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deftbeat

zangetsu and ichigo's hollow represents ichigo's strength, its like a yin and yang for example, the hollow took over zangetsu because of ichigo's frustation to protect his friends from being hurt.
in my opinion ^^

ou that sounds good! cant wait for ichigo to return!i really want to see him dominate this hallow, its really starting to bug me how they`re going to portray this hallow scenario!

nexusolus · Oct 02, 2007, 06:18 AM

When Ichigo fights his inner hollow his hollow states that he and zangetsu are one being but which ever one has more power is in control and that is who ichigo borrows power from, when zangetsu is in control ichigo's Getsuga Tensho is i light blue while when the inner hollow is in control it is a black red. The more ichigo uses the hollows power the closer he comes to being controled by it.

gaarasandkiller1 · Nov 07, 2007, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nexusolus

When Ichigo fights his inner hollow his hollow states that he and zangetsu are one being but which ever one has more power is in control and that is who ichigo borrows power from, when zangetsu is in control ichigo's Getsuga Tensho is i light blue while when the inner hollow is in control it is a black red. The more ichigo uses the hollows power the closer he comes to being controled by it.

hhmmm some one knows his bleach yes this is true and it was a hard test for itchigo to pass to but well worth it on itchigo's end

Aug 19, 2007, 10:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
ShinigamiDiomedes201 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 110	Questions about Zangetsu I have got this question that been bothering me for some time, about Kurosaki's Zanpakuto, Zangetsu. When Ichigo first became a Shinigami, he was wielding what looked like a normal Zanpakuto, except for the fact that it was huge. Then it was broken by Kuchiki Byakuya, right? Then he learned that his Zanpakuto's name was Zangetsu, and released it. And now he carries that huge cleaver around in the unsealed state all the time. Was the first sword the sealed form of Zangetsu, and if it was, why can't Ichigo seal it back? I am fairly new to the Bleach series, and was wondering if the Bleach veterans here could answer this question for me. __________________ "Turn your sadness and anger into strength."
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Mr. K THUMBSUCKING ADDICTION Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,250 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Credits: 2,160	Re: Questions about Zangetsu Its explain in the Manga so I heard, but in the Anime its just Like this: Ichigo powers are just to high. It's kinda like Kenpachi Zaraki and his sword. Except Kenpachi Zaraki Doesn't know the name of this sword. Doesn't stop the fact that his sword is released. He's power is just strong like that. You should wait to finish the show or Read the Manga. click to show spoiler Soon Ichigo Hollow begins to take over Zangetsu: Stating that Zangetsu is really Ichigo's Spirit power and when he calls on him the hollow may take over his soul. Its just stating fact that He CAN'T control his own power To see more and a little more understanding. Anywho ! To round it up Ichigo's Zanpakuto always in Shikai State. EDIT:: I meant that it wont change back to normal because the user has enough spiritual pressure to sustain it. Like what Kenpachi Zaraki can do. [END] __________________ ≥°≤ [?] █▓▒░░▒▓█ [?] ≥°≤ ◕ ◡ ◕;;;;[?]
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ShinigamiDiomedes201 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 110	Re: Questions about Zangetsu Thanks you guys, it was really helpful! One funny thing I noticed though, is that you two are both actual Veterans in AO. When I said "Bleach veterans", I meant those people who have watched/read it more than me . That doesn't matter though, your help was excellent, I just noticed it and thought it was slightly funny. __________________ "Turn your sadness and anger into strength."
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hendo24 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Credits: 677	Re: Questions about Zangetsu Hi ive been wondering about zangetsu, ive been thinking that the hallow inside ichigo has been thier from the start but it seemed to be dominated by zangetsu itself, yet later in the series the hallow claimed that it itself was infact zangetsu! i was ondering if anyone had any views on this and any theorys on whats actually going on in poor old ichigos head :P
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hendo24 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Credits: 677	Re: Questions about Zangetsu I guess it`ll all be revealed some time! but god damn thier taking thier time the episodes these days! i havent seen ichigo look better then average for a LONG time now lol
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nexusolus Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 256 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Credits: 2,821	Re: Questions about Zangetsu When Ichigo fights his inner hollow his hollow states that he and zangetsu are one being but which ever one has more power is in control and that is who ichigo borrows power from, when zangetsu is in control ichigo's Getsuga Tensho is i light blue while when the inner hollow is in control it is a black red. The more ichigo uses the hollows power the closer he comes to being controled by it.
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