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Old Sep 08, 2007, 08:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The leader of the akatsuki.

OK if u read the manga of Naruto Far into the manga when naruto finally meets up with the leader of the akatsuki,somthing devistaing is revaled to him(now i read it a while ago),The leader is actually dum dum dum Yodime the fourth shocked? yes well u should very well be,If u read up to chapter 254,u will see yodime talking to naruto,of course naruto is confuesed.Ok If you want to,reply to this postasking for the conversation between the two instead of reading it your self,oh and one more thing(this is the big spoiler,yodime is actually naruto's father)Now i know most people most of already thought of him as his father having the same looks and qualities.
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Old Sep 09, 2007, 01:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: The leader of the akatsuki.

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OK if u read the manga of Naruto Far into the manga when naruto finally meets up with the leader of the akatsuki,somthing devistaing is revaled to him(now i read it a while ago),The leader is actually dum dum dum Yodime the fourth shocked? yes well u should very well be,If u read up to chapter 254,u will see yodime talking to naruto,of course naruto is confuesed.Ok If you want to,reply to this postasking for the conversation between the two instead of reading it your self,oh and one more thing(this is the big spoiler,yodime is actually naruto's father)Now i know most people most of already thought of him as his father having the same looks and qualities.
Ugh, not this again.

1) The fourth hokage is Naruto's FATHER.
2) The leader of the Akatsuki is Pein BUT it appears that Tobi (who's actually Madara Uchiha) is the real leader working from the shadows.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 10:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
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2) The leader of the Akatsuki is Pein BUT it appears that Tobi (who's actually Madara Uchiha) is the real leader working from the shadows.
This is quite Ironic seeing as Tobi didn't join until Sasori was killed by Chiyo-baasama. A subordinate of Zetsu nontheless? The writer is loosing some edge if he thinks people forget idle things like this...

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Old Sep 14, 2007, 11:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
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This is quite Ironic seeing as Tobi didn't join until Sasori was killed by Chiyo-baasama. A subordinate of Zetsu nontheless? The writer is loosing some edge if he thinks people forget idle things like this...

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Maybe he was even controlling the Akatsuki from the shadows before that. It's not a major loophole compared to some of the other ones.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 10:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: The leader of the akatsuki.

Belay that remark.

So this goes so far as to say his childish characteristics and instigation, it was merely an act to conceal his identity from all by Pein and Nasara (I think its her name)?
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Old Sep 15, 2007, 02:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Belay that remark.

So this goes so far as to say his childish characteristics and instigation, it was merely an act to conceal his identity from all by Pein and Nasara (I think its her name)?
Who knows, could be.
And isn't she called Konan?
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Old Sep 17, 2007, 12:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: The leader of the akatsuki.

Speaking of the leader, according to the newest chapter he seems to have gained immortality and may have been able to summon the nine tailed fox nearly 15 years ago. O_o seriously wild concept...summon....a tailed beast...seriously and this is Madara we're talking about supposably destroyed along with the shodaime at the valley of the end.
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Speaking of the leader, according to the newest chapter he seems to have gained immortality and may have been able to summon the nine tailed fox nearly 15 years ago. O_o seriously wild concept...summon....a tailed beast...seriously and this is Madara we're talking about supposably destroyed along with the shodaime at the valley of the end.
The first kicked Madara's ass and to actually become the first Hokage. If he had lost Madara Uchiha would have become the first Hokage.

More proof that the first Hokage was one awesome dude.
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Re: The leader of the akatsuki.

Do you think it's possible that Uchiha Madara was reincarnated or brought back to life into Tobi's body? Or soemthing along those lines? I don't like the whole Tobi = Obito theroy and it's just a thought that came up.
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Re: The leader of the akatsuki.

Thats another thing.

Why is it that you can't see any part of Tobi's body? I mean his hands are pitch black when they show him picking up Sasori's ring. (Just like Pein, he has a thumb ring? LOL Coincidence?) The Tobi = Obito paradox had something along the lines of restoring Obito's body or something like that. The mask is just compensation for his missing sharingan eye (Does Tobi even have mangekyou? If so the same as Kakashi? Thats something to think about too.)

Think about it.

If Madara is truly immortal...he'd need an Uchiha body to merge his soul with...<_< I'm guessing he could've used Obito's battered body under the massive boulder. Hmmm, I will even go so far as to think that he found Obito's body 1 year before the Kyuubi was released (Kakashi, Obito and Rin were all 13 in Kakashi Gaiden, and Kakashi was 26 at the manga/anime's start as well leaving absent 1 year correct?)

Tobi's "Antics"

Possible signs of Obito's own spirit had taken over through those instances with Deidara as well as being Zetsu's subordinate.
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Re: The leader of the akatsuki.

While I don't believe Madara was Obito, Orochimaru already showed you can take over the body of the deceased. If you absolutely HAVE to make the link it could be that Madara used Obito's corpse.
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