is it worth watching the movies? - Page 2

*Ochi Gate* · Jul 20, 2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel219

It's hard to believe (even my sister doesn't & she's watched it more than me!), but I actually understood it. But then again, I do tend to think waaaaaayyyyy too much...

I'd give you the basic outline, but I'm not sure I'm allowed to since this isn't in the spoilers section. Don't want to spoil it for those who haven't seen it. They should have the right to have their brains dribble out their ears as they try to understand it...

If you want, I could tell you via PM, or even on here if someone important enough gives me the go ahead. I can never find the right bit in the forum rules when I need to.

ok now i watched it. i got a few ideas about the ending...ill PM you later too.

maamon · Aug 04, 2007, 05:20 AM

well ... I've watched all the episodes ,the ending (episodes 25 and 26) was talking about only one part of the story (shinji only) ... and how he won the battle with himself ( inside his mind ) ... how he got rid of his fears ...

But ... in the other hand ... the whole story had to end some how ... so I searched and watched the movie named "The End Of Evangelion" ... which helped me understand what happened next ... what happened to the world ... It was the true end of the story ...

This story is one of the best stories I've ever seen or heard about ...

So ... It's worth watching .....

BlackSwordsman1 · Jan 13, 2008, 12:43 AM

with the movies one has to keep a real open mind, and a good understanding of the series. The movies could either leave you in a state of confusion, frustration, or understanding. They could either answer all of your questions or deepen your pool of confusion until the point that you just give up

tsurara · Jan 13, 2008, 02:38 AM

In retrospect: no, I don't think so.

Evangelion has trouble getting it's own timeline straight... so whatever incarnation you watch/play/read, enough changes to completely change your understanding of the series. And since the different incarnations completely ignore small, but crucial plot points and character traits established by the others, for the most part, they are all seperate entities. Tying them together is a headache and the more incarnations and spin-offs there are: the less sense any of them make together as a single unit.

EVA is an odd series where you choose your favorite incarnation and make that your own personal "canon". For me, it's the manga (not the Shinji-raising manga, the Girlfriend of Steel 2nd manga or the new yuber-gay Kaworu/Shinji ladies' manga... the plain old NGE manga). And the movies don't entirely mesh with that either.

I thought the movies were nihilistic, hateful, misogynistic and depressing as hell. And while a lot of what happened was interesting... I guess I just don't see what was "added" to the message of the series. Certainly nothing I liked.

Now, with new movies in the Rebuild series, I'm guessing the original EoE movies will become even more confusing/contradictory/obselete.

So, if you are an EVA completist and aren't easily confused: there's nothing to lose watching EoE. If you prefer to have a somewhat positive outlook of the series and some hope for any of the characters not to be completely mentally and morally destroyed: skip it.

LordCastigator · Jan 13, 2008, 04:35 AM

*Daniel219 moves in for the defense...*

I'll admit, Neon Genesis Evangelion isn't for everyone, with the movies even more confusing than the series, but it is worth watching, even if just for the combat. If you liked the series & not afraid of possibly getting more confused, feel free to watch it. I'll admit, I haven't read the Manga, though I know where I can get it, but it does fit in with the Anime series. I've already posted about where what fits in with what, so I'll leave that alone.

As for the timeline, it does go back occationally to explain things that have already happened, but I wouldn't say it's out of order.

Ultimately, it's your choice, I'm just saying it might be worth it if your interested in the Anime.

tsurara · Jan 13, 2008, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel219

but it does fit in with the Anime series. I've already posted about where what fits in with what, so I'll leave that alone.

I would argue that it completely ignores/erases the final two episodes, contradicts the anime's ending, and changes the entire original message (thus erasing the Girlfriend of Steel 2nd/Shinji-raising/EVA school universe altogether) ^_^;

Yes... some things fit. But in the overall scheme of things: EoE changed the "moral of the story" and removed an element necesary to more than half of the current EVA spin-offs.

The original series ending fits better into the over-arching timeline: mainly because it creates an opening for sequels and creative interpretation whereas the films pretty much put a rest to the hope for anything more (unless it's Shinji-Asuka rape-porn) and says "This is the end. This is exactly what happened, screw what you think."

LordCastigator · Jan 13, 2008, 06:06 AM

OK, OK, I'll admit I stuffed up in that last post.

I really should have mentioned where the movies fitted in, but though it wouldn't have made a difference. I'll be nice to those who haven't seen it yet & use the power of the "Spoiler" button.

click to show spoiler

Ygredviper · Jan 28, 2008, 02:01 PM

Yes it is worth watching the show and movies. Even if it is a bit confusing with the alternate endings and the crazy chicks.

Lilium · Feb 05, 2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ygredviper

Yes it is worth watching the show and movies. Even if it is a bit confusing with the alternate endings and the crazy chicks.

i realy dont think its worth whatching the Eva Movies i own them i know o the death and rebirth movie is nothing but a compleate recap of the eva series and not to menchan at the end of it shingy did somthing to Aska and they dont say what

lost12 · Mar 16, 2008, 01:48 AM

the movies are diffrent the carry on from where kaoru dies and goes on to where shinji causes new impact to deside the out come of the earth its a must see movie!!!!

Flclking22 · May 08, 2008, 04:52 PM

The movies in my mind were worth is. Death, not so much, but End was worth it all the way.

click to show spoiler

Aug 04, 2007, 05:20 AM	#13 (permalink)
maamon Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: World Of Gaea Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 1,627	Re: is it worth watching the movies? well ... I've watched all the episodes ,the ending (episodes 25 and 26) was talking about only one part of the story (shinji only) ... and how he won the battle with himself ( inside his mind ) ... how he got rid of his fears ... But ... in the other hand ... the whole story had to end some how ... so I searched and watched the movie named "The End Of Evangelion" ... which helped me understand what happened next ... what happened to the world ... It was the true end of the story ... This story is one of the best stories I've ever seen or heard about ... So ... It's worth watching ..... __________________ Timing Is Everything ...
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BlackSwordsman1 Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Midtown Manhattan, NYC Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Credits: 818	Re: is it worth watching the movies? with the movies one has to keep a real open mind, and a good understanding of the series. The movies could either leave you in a state of confusion, frustration, or understanding. They could either answer all of your questions or deepen your pool of confusion until the point that you just give up
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tsurara anti-semantics Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shikoku Posts: 1,312 Thanks: 5 Thanked 81 Times in 55 Posts Credits: 61,124	Re: is it worth watching the movies? In retrospect: no, I don't think so. Evangelion has trouble getting it's own timeline straight... so whatever incarnation you watch/play/read, enough changes to completely change your understanding of the series. And since the different incarnations completely ignore small, but crucial plot points and character traits established by the others, for the most part, they are all seperate entities. Tying them together is a headache and the more incarnations and spin-offs there are: the less sense any of them make together as a single unit. EVA is an odd series where you choose your favorite incarnation and make that your own personal "canon". For me, it's the manga (not the Shinji-raising manga, the Girlfriend of Steel 2nd manga or the new yuber-gay Kaworu/Shinji ladies' manga... the plain old NGE manga). And the movies don't entirely mesh with that either. I thought the movies were nihilistic, hateful, misogynistic and depressing as hell. And while a lot of what happened was interesting... I guess I just don't see what was "added" to the message of the series. Certainly nothing I liked. Now, with new movies in the Rebuild series, I'm guessing the original EoE movies will become even more confusing/contradictory/obselete. So, if you are an EVA completist and aren't easily confused: there's nothing to lose watching EoE. If you prefer to have a somewhat positive outlook of the series and some hope for any of the characters not to be completely mentally and morally destroyed: skip it. Last edited by tsurara; Jan 13, 2008 at 04:55 AM.
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LordCastigator Pro Utilitate Hominum Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: You know that feeling, like you're being watched... Posts: 708 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts Credits: 21,353	Re: is it worth watching the movies? Daniel219 moves in for the defense... I'll admit, Neon Genesis Evangelion isn't for everyone, with the movies even more confusing than the series, but it is worth watching, even if just for the combat. If you liked the series & not afraid of possibly getting more confused, feel free to watch it. I'll admit, I haven't read the Manga, though I know where I can get it, but it does fit in with the Anime series. I've already posted about where what fits in with what, so I'll leave that alone. As for the timeline, it does go back occationally to explain things that have already happened, but I wouldn't say it's out of order. Ultimately, it's your choice, I'm just saying it might be worth it if your interested in the Anime. __________________ The A$$hole previously known as Daniel219 Thanks a million for this sig Pyro_psyco. Too true... My Gundam story. Please read it, please...
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LordCastigator Pro Utilitate Hominum Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: You know that feeling, like you're being watched... Posts: 708 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts Credits: 21,353	Re: is it worth watching the movies? OK, OK, I'll admit I stuffed up in that last post. I really should have mentioned where the movies fitted in, but though it wouldn't have made a difference. I'll be nice to those who haven't seen it yet & use the power of the "Spoiler" button. click to show spoiler Basically your right about it ignoring & erasing the last 2 episodes, because it's set before them, sending it into a different chain of events, making them null & void. It deviates directly after the last Angel loses his head litterally, With everyone staying on high alert despite the lack of threat the Angels previously posed. This is to tire them out before the SEELE makes their hacking attack, followed by their military attack. However, I think the moral remains intact, that each person is unique, each with their own strengths & weaknesses. In the series it's Gendo directly using Rei as his medium who tries to bring humanity into one perfect being, in the movies it's SEELE using the mass production EVA series with Rei once again acting as the medium, though by choice ("Ikari is calling me..."), however in both it's Shinji who stuffs them up by realizing he his his own person, & that every person is different from the next guy in some way. __________________ The A$$hole previously known as Daniel219 Thanks a million for this sig Pyro_psyco. Too true... My Gundam story. Please read it, please...
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