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    Breeding Controversy: Imports that are asking for trouble

    So 10 years ago it was impossible to get even a show for small children on the air without renaming every character, changing the locale from Tokyo to California and editing out every trace of cleavage, violence or Japanese culture. We were lucky to get a series that was shown in it's original order without entire chunks of the storyline chopped out because they were deemed "boring" or "inappropriate".

    But now it's entirely possible to go to your local small-town Walmart and buy a copy of AKIRA uncut before stopping at your bookshop to grab a copy of the latest explicit man-on-man manga-porn.

    Have Americans just lightened up about sex and violence? Or have parents just not noticed that it's still around and everyone under 30 is in on anime's dirty little secret?

    Granted things like "When they Cry" still aren't quite ready for prime time... but I know a heck of a lot of 13 year olds who've seen all of Elfen Lied and some parents that buy their preteens copies of Chobits.

    "Kodomo no Jikan" (manga) was quite possibly the first liscence to be pulled due to public outcry over it's content (very provacative extremely underage sexuality).

    Sometimes I myself shake my head over something and say "this would NEVER make it outside of Japan". For example: Persona 3, which requires it's teenaged protaganists to shoot themselves in the head with loaded guns approximately every 15 seconds. And yet... it's been liscenced and released in the US. I haven't heard any complaints yet.

    And I just got my hands on Aquarion... something you guys should be getting shortly. Every single episode requires three main characters to have absolutely fantastic orgasms at least once O_o; In episode 2, Sylvia actually shouts "I'm coming!" The first thought to rush to my mind is: "only in Japan!"... but it's ALREADY liscenced!

    We have grand jury indictments over violent video games... but anime seems to go unnoticed.

    Why?

    And are we going to run out of luck sooner or later?
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    Re: Breeding Controversy: Imports that are asking for trouble

    I believe alot of it has ta do wit the fact that, although anime and manga has come far in 10 years, these products r still not exposed enough, on a level, for anyone ta really notice. If manga and anime had the same amount of exposure, let's say, on the same level as comic books or films; we would probably have a different story. Yet I don' think that this is the only reason, america's mentallity is changin', I believe. I mean, look at Frank Miller's Sin City, or 300, or any of his other graphic novels; american perception 'bout things like comic books, graphic novels, anime, and manga is startin' ta change. There r more adults involved wit these genre these days than 10 years ago, I believe that; as far as this form of entertainment genre is concerned; american's r maturin' and the idea that "cartoons" r jus' for kids has changed. Even though watchin' somethin' like "Bugs Bunny" or "Mickey Mouse" is enjoyable and very nostalgic, they also want somethin' that's more mature and that they can interact wit on their level. But there r not enough adults who r aware of this genre 'cause it's not exposed enough. I ran inta a woman in Wal-Mart one time, who's child kept praddlin' on 'bout Naruto, but she didn' know who Naruto was. Yet when we were talkin', we had gotten on the subject of comic books and she even knew who Wolverine was. I believe that a combination of these two factors r the main reasons for why, but I do, also, believe that it will catch up and that some parents will finally become aware that some anime and manga r not for children and will get the misperception that they r and we'll go through, with this genre, what this country went through, in our history, wit movies, comic books, and now video games. I do believe that it is only a matter of time.

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    Re: Breeding Controversy: Imports that are asking for trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by tsurara View Post
    And I just got my hands on Aquarion... something you guys should be getting shortly. Every single episode requires three main characters to have absolutely fantastic orgasms at least once O_o; In episode 2, Sylvia actually shouts "I'm coming!" The first thought to rush to my mind is: "only in Japan!"... but it's ALREADY liscenced!
    Sweet! i can't wait to get a hold of this Aquarion show. So, this anime show is pretty much a hentai series, but without the sex scenes.

    We have grand jury indictments over violent video games... but anime seems to go unnoticed.

    Why?

    And are we going to run out of luck sooner or later?
    Anime isn't that big yet, so it goes unnoticed. Besides, many of the show licensed are rated R or M, so it is only meant for older audiences.

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    Re: Breeding Controversy: Imports that are asking for trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by ketaro View Post
    Sweet! i can't wait to get a hold of this Aquarion show. So, this anime show is pretty much a hentai series, but without the sex scenes.
    ~_~; Not exactly... They have the orgasms during "Gattai" (Union) when their individual vectors lock together to form the show's central robot, Aquarion. They're not actually touching, but they are shown naked and are bonded "spiritually" (though there is some strange chakra action going on in the groin areas when the main pair get together). The characters make jokes about it as if it were sex... at one point in ep 3 or 4, Pierre slyly tells Sylvia "I'll make you come next time, Princess."

    They all talk about their first gattai like it's their first sexual experience and seem to want to do it with people they like ^^; Sylvia blushes when talking about Gattai with her older brother... etc.

    It's DEFINATELY sexual ^^;

    Anime isn't that big yet, so it goes unnoticed. Besides, many of the show licensed are rated R or M, so it is only meant for older audiences.
    So are the violent video games in question. That hasn't stopped major movements to restrict, ban or blame them for all the ills of society.

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    Re: Breeding Controversy: Imports that are asking for trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by tsurara View Post
    So are the violent video games in question. That hasn't stopped major movements to restrict, ban or blame them for all the ills of society.
    So, video games have become the scapegoat of the ills caused by the people in our society, isn't that plain stupid? Video games are intended to entertain, if someone becomes violent after playing video games, that person must be either stupid or needs medical attention.

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    Re: Breeding Controversy: Imports that are asking for trouble

    its all about the video games. if there becomes some kind of a ban on video games, then undoubtedly they will move on to other things, with Anime being the top of the list.

    quite frankly i belive its b/c people are too wrapped up in their day-to-day pusuit of money and such to notice what people are doing....

    i belive, in anime/manga/hentai/whatever as well as video games, the ultimate deciding factor SHOULD be the parents of the individual in question. there is no need for a govenment control over media.

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    Re: Breeding Controversy: Imports that are asking for trouble

    geez that video game thing i rest the blame completely on the idiot parents that buy without looking at what they buy...hell i was at a video rental and some kid (7-10yrs of age) was buggin his mom nonstop to rent GTA. she gave in to stop his ranting. when he ran off to check something else out. i had to step in and lecture her about that game and ask what the heck she was doing, she left it on the counter. Dont get me wrong, I absolutly love GTA, thinks its funny as hell. But its not something i would let my kids play.
    but yeah, as graphic as Anime can get, its not like its something you couldn't see on TV in america with some of our shows...of course thats not full blown hentai neither...also i think as a general rule Anime fans here tend to be older when they go after the more graphic animes...and yeah parents just dont care, and will likely never watch what they just bought for their 12 year old...i do what my sister does, if i buy it i watch it, if its cool by me, they watch it, if not, then its not. god dont ever let one of our idiot senators see Elfn Lied or Aquarion...that will be the start of trouble...
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    Re: Breeding Controversy: Imports that are asking for trouble

    I lay the blame on the parent.If there were more responsible and actually looked at the ratings for the stuff they by for there kids allot of these problems would not happen.For the most part if they looked there would be no need for the government to regulate anime or video games.


    My mother went to by GTA: vice city story's for my brother one day.She could not believe that the guy asked her "you do know this is rated mature ? " "she was like ya i do" i was laughing when she told me this.I told her the guy needed to asked due to allot of dumba** parents that don't bother looking at what there buying for there kids.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jepray View Post
    god dont ever let one of our idiot senators see Elfn Lied or Aquarion...that will be the start of trouble...
    I say there all idiots.Also Elfin Lied was one of the best animes i have seen in awhile.
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