Monkey D. Luffy vs. Naruto Uzamaki

Jokerman · Apr 24, 2008, 10:40 AM

Okay, I've always wondered this and I wanna know what you thin the outcome of this match would be. Monkey D. Luffy from One Piece and Naruto Uzamaki from Naruto Shippūden.

I think Luffy would win because of his Second and Third Gears which enables him to either become incredibly fast of enlagre a part of his body to inflict major damage. The move I think he's beat Naruto with is Gomu Gomu no Jet Gattling Gun, since it's his strongest attack and because I know Naruto would tranform to his Nine-Tailed form.

basilisk888 · Apr 24, 2008, 10:47 AM

that would be a fun battle to watch ^^ yes most likely rubber man would win but you underesimate the power of the rasanga also the power of the nine tailed fox ^.^ (and will naruto make the new jutsu in time 0.0) it would be fun but luffy would most likely win >.<

cantsenditback · Apr 24, 2008, 02:31 PM

IS Naruto going to use the power of the nine tail fox or not. If he is maybe naruto but i say luffy as the long range attack he can do

basilisk888 · Apr 24, 2008, 03:56 PM

look up on you-tube "demon fox coak for naruto" you'll see that long range attacks are no problem for naruto... (fox mode >.<)
-"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8C6JfhmrK0&feature=related"

!The GunGrave of Trigun · Apr 24, 2008, 05:35 PM

Naruto Uzamaki cause of the 9 tailed fox and he is older and stonger because we are talking about him in naruto shippuuden.

*Innerhell* · Apr 25, 2008, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The GunGrave of Trigun

Naruto Uzamaki cause of the 9 tailed fox and he is older and stonger because we are talking about him in naruto shippuuden.

You do realize that Luffy can

lift over 100 tons*
is impervious to most physical attacks
is nearly impervious to pain itself (especially when he is is royally pissed off and his nakama are in danger or if the concept of a dream is bashed)
can move in speeds faster than the blink of an eye (Gear 2nd)
can increase his own super strength a hundredfold (Gear 3rd)
has dealt with villains and fighters that are stronger than most characters (IF NOT ALL) in Naruto (Sir Crocodile, Enel, Rob Lucci, Gecko Moria)
has defeated over a thousand men without breaking a sweat (Enies Lobby)

Watch Luffy's fights and compare his abilities to Naruto yourself. Of course, there are spoilers, but there's nothing really spoiled since we all know that Luffy wins.
Finale to Luffy versus Crocodile
Finale to Luffy versus Bellamy
Finale to Luffy versus Enel
Honorable mention - Luffy versus Ussop
Finale to Luffy versus Blueno
Finale to Luffy versus Rob Lucci

More in depth:

Sir Crocodile is a sand user, but Gaara is an ant compared to him. Crocodile has spent years mastering his own ability. He has FULL control over sand. He can turn his own body to sand, making him completely invulnerable. He can drain a person's body of water just by touching them. His only weakness is that if his opponent is covered in water or any liquid, his physical damage immunity is negated and his opponent can touch him.

Luffy beat Crocodile with brute strength after covering his fist with his own blood. Gaara was never beaten with brute force, rather he received a change of heart and Naruto only succeeded in waking him up. Naruto had help from Gamabunta before Naruto used the power of the friendship speech to convert Gaara to Narutoism. Luffy just beat the crap out of Crocodile and won.

Luffy's only weakness aside from the natural Devil Fruit user's reaction to water is sharp objects, but that doesn't matter at all. Luffy has been stabbed many times and he just shrugs it off like it was nothing. In fact, Crocodile stabbed Luffy THROUGH THE CHEST with a poisoned hook [as seen in the end of their first fight] and Luffy still came back tour de force.

Okay. Let's look at everything in Naruto's arsenal for the sake of being fair.

His strongest attack as of yet is the Rasenshuriken. It attacks in the cellular level, striking the nucleii of each cell, but the drawback is that it causes severe damage on Naruto as well. If Naruto were to use this, Luffy could sustain quite a bit of damage, but then again, the chemical property of his body is pure rubber therefore it is possible that his cells are reinforced with a polymer as well. Then again even more, Rasenshuriken creates microscopic chakra spears. This could make it affect Luffy's cells.

Then there's Naruto in his awakened four-tailed fox form. He gains instantaneous regenerative capabilities, BUT this causes great stress on Naruto's body. The side-effect is a shortening of his life span and if he were to be in that stress for too long, his body would simply give in and he would die. I can see Luffy pummeling Naruto endlessly with Gomu Gomu no Jet Gatling Cannon and Kyuubi Naruto endlessly regenerating each blow until Naruto himself dies from the stress. Naruto may be fueled by a monster with nearly infinite chakra, but his body is completely human unlike Luffy.

Comparing Naruto and Luffy's handling of physical stress and trauma.
If Naruto was hit with everything that Luffy has ever had to be hit with, then Naruto would've been beaten to a pulp, with nothing left of him at all. Despite Luffy's rubber body, Luffy still takes physical damage nonetheless. The stronger the opponent, the more of a beating he gets. If you watched his fight with Lucci, he is injured enough where he coughs up blood, indicating internal injuries. Naruto's regenerative capability via Kyuubi helps a little, but on the long run, Naruto's body is too human whereas Luffy along with most characters in One Piece are superhuman.

*"proof" that Luffy can lift 100 tons (just in case of rebuttal).

Luffy drags a golden ball around because of Enel.

From a thread in Narutofan.

"50 ton? Gold weighs 19,300 Kilos per cubic meter. Thats 40,530 pounds a cubic meter. The volume of the a sphere is 4/3(Pi)R^3. Assuming a 1m radius. Luffy was hauling 54,000 pounds, 27 tons. Assuming a 1.5M radius, 182,385 pounds or 91 tons. If the ball is 2m? 323,440 pounds, or 161 tons. Given that the ball varies widely in size between 1 and 2m radius, luffys casual strength is somewhere around there. Furthermore the size of the ball multiplied by the frictive co-effcient of average wood and the 45° angle of the stalk means that he can easily lift at leave 1.5 times whatever sum is shown.I remember when I tried to work out a closer figure for the weight based on its height relative to Luffy's, I got 102~ tons. I wasn't being particularly generous though."

As you can see, I take versus threads very seriously.

My apologies to the mods for the spoilers. I needed visual aid for my side of the argument.

basilisk888 · Apr 25, 2008, 03:37 AM

I think luffy would win also but there is one thing... look at narutos fight with orotimaru (or wat ever) well he was only useing 4 tails... >.<

*Innerhell* · Apr 25, 2008, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by basilisk888

I think luffy would win also but there is one thing... look at narutos fight with orotimaru (or wat ever) well he was only useing 4 tails... >.<

Any more and he would most likely die. You're aware that while he had four tails, he was completely covered in blood. The transformation caused lacerations all over his body. He was covered in his own blood, but the Kyuubi chakra inside him constantly healed him. The Kyuubi's regenerative capabilities continuously healed Naruto, but it also shortens his life span the longer he is in that state. There's also the fact that he is in a completely berserk state of mind. If it weren't for Yamato to stop Naruto, everyone would've been dead. Including Naruto.

It's exactly like the Berserker's Armor from the series Berserk. (This may be obscure to you, but I don't really care. People that know of it would know what I am talking about.)

The Berserker's Armor puts it's wearer in a bestial berserker state. The wearer cannot feel pain. The wearer only knows that it must fight, fight, fight. There is no more distinction between friend or foe. The Armor puts the wearer in top condition. If a bone breaks, the Armor uses sharp spikes to put the bone back in place, even going as far as breaking it even more just to put it in place. There has been occurrences where a wearer of the Berserker's Armor has died while inside the Armor.

Hilariously, the exact same thing is for Naruto and when he gains four tails. Minus the awesomely gruesome (or gruesomely awesome) armor spikes

basilisk888 · Apr 25, 2008, 04:01 AM

fun fun funny weeeeee that must have a good time and kill alot ...^^... but wat about rasagun (or wat ever) and also what about narutos new jutsu that his master is going to have him make ^^ (still say luffy will win though...)

Jokerman · Apr 25, 2008, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innerhell

You do realize that Luffy can

lift over 100 tons*
is impervious to most physical attacks
is nearly impervious to pain itself (especially when he is is royally pissed off and his nakama are in danger or if the concept of a dream is bashed)
can move in speeds faster than the blink of an eye (Gear 2nd)
can increase his own super strength a hundredfold (Gear 3rd)
has dealt with villains and fighters that are stronger than most characters (IF NOT ALL) in Naruto (Sir Crocodile, Enel, Rob Lucci, Gecko Moria)
has defeated over a thousand men without breaking a sweat (Enies Lobby)

Watch Luffy's fights and compare his abilities to Naruto yourself. Of course, there are spoilers, but there's nothing really spoiled since we all know that Luffy wins.
Finale to Luffy versus Crocodile
Finale to Luffy versus Bellamy
Finale to Luffy versus Enel
Honorable mention - Luffy versus Ussop
Finale to Luffy versus Blueno
Finale to Luffy versus Rob Lucci

More in depth:

Sir Crocodile is a sand user, but Gaara is an ant compared to him. Crocodile has spent years mastering his own ability. He has FULL control over sand. He can turn his own body to sand, making him completely invulnerable. He can drain a person's body of water just by touching them. His only weakness is that if his opponent is covered in water or any liquid, his physical damage immunity is negated and his opponent can touch him.

Luffy beat Crocodile with brute strength after covering his fist with his own blood. Gaara was never beaten with brute force, rather he received a change of heart and Naruto only succeeded in waking him up. Naruto had help from Gamabunta before Naruto used the power of the friendship speech to convert Gaara to Narutoism. Luffy just beat the crap out of Crocodile and won.

Luffy's only weakness aside from the natural Devil Fruit user's reaction to water is sharp objects, but that doesn't matter at all. Luffy has been stabbed many times and he just shrugs it off like it was nothing. In fact, Crocodile stabbed Luffy THROUGH THE CHEST with a poisoned hook [as seen in the end of their first fight] and Luffy still came back tour de force.

Okay. Let's look at everything in Naruto's arsenal for the sake of being fair.

His strongest attack as of yet is the Rasenshuriken. It attacks in the cellular level, striking the nucleii of each cell, but the drawback is that it causes severe damage on Naruto as well. If Naruto were to use this, Luffy could sustain quite a bit of damage, but then again, the chemical property of his body is pure rubber therefore it is possible that his cells are reinforced with a polymer as well. Then again even more, Rasenshuriken creates microscopic chakra spears. This could make it affect Luffy's cells.

Then there's Naruto in his awakened four-tailed fox form. He gains instantaneous regenerative capabilities, BUT this causes great stress on Naruto's body. The side-effect is a shortening of his life span and if he were to be in that stress for too long, his body would simply give in and he would die. I can see Luffy pummeling Naruto endlessly with Gomu Gomu no Jet Gatling Cannon and Kyuubi Naruto endlessly regenerating each blow until Naruto himself dies from the stress. Naruto may be fueled by a monster with nearly infinite chakra, but his body is completely human unlike Luffy.

Comparing Naruto and Luffy's handling of physical stress and trauma.
If Naruto was hit with everything that Luffy has ever had to be hit with, then Naruto would've been beaten to a pulp, with nothing left of him at all. Despite Luffy's rubber body, Luffy still takes physical damage nonetheless. The stronger the opponent, the more of a beating he gets. If you watched his fight with Lucci, he is injured enough where he coughs up blood, indicating internal injuries. Naruto's regenerative capability via Kyuubi helps a little, but on the long run, Naruto's body is too human whereas Luffy along with most characters in One Piece are superhuman.

*"proof" that Luffy can lift 100 tons (just in case of rebuttal).

Luffy drags a golden ball around because of Enel.

From a thread in Narutofan.

"50 ton? Gold weighs 19,300 Kilos per cubic meter. Thats 40,530 pounds a cubic meter. The volume of the a sphere is 4/3(Pi)R^3. Assuming a 1m radius. Luffy was hauling 54,000 pounds, 27 tons. Assuming a 1.5M radius, 182,385 pounds or 91 tons. If the ball is 2m? 323,440 pounds, or 161 tons. Given that the ball varies widely in size between 1 and 2m radius, luffys casual strength is somewhere around there. Furthermore the size of the ball multiplied by the frictive co-effcient of average wood and the 45° angle of the stalk means that he can easily lift at leave 1.5 times whatever sum is shown.I remember when I tried to work out a closer figure for the weight based on its height relative to Luffy's, I got 102~ tons. I wasn't being particularly generous though."

As you can see, I take versus threads very seriously.

My apologies to the mods for the spoilers. I needed visual aid for my side of the argument.

Exactly! I mean, Luffy's attacks are more like hard hitting attacks, and he just has the pure strength that you mentioned, like Luffy being able to lift 100tons and the way u explained on how the distance and wieght of the golden ball he used to fight against Enel was just great. You went into so much detail and proof in more than one way on how much Luffy would royally kick Naruto's arse and I thank you so much. Naruto doesn't stand a chance against him in a battle especially if Luffy was pissed off. Luffy could withstand whatever Naruto decides the throw at him, it would hurt him but if he can shrug of one of Lucci Tenkkai attacks then I'm sure that Naruto's Rasenshuriken wouldn't surfice for very long.

*Innerhell* · Apr 25, 2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jokerman

Exactly! I mean, Luffy's attacks are more like hard hitting attacks, and he just has the pure strength that you mentioned, like Luffy being able to lift 100tons and the way u explained on how the distance and wieght of the golden ball he used to fight against Enel was just great. You went into so much detail and proof in more than one way on how much Luffy would royally kick Naruto's arse and I thank you so much. Naruto doesn't stand a chance against him in a battle especially if Luffy was pissed off. Luffy could withstand whatever Naruto decides the throw at him, it would hurt him but if he can shrug of one of Lucci Tenkkai attacks then I'm sure that Naruto's Rasenshuriken wouldn't surfice for very long.

The Rasenshuriken is basically the only thing that Naruto could use against Luffy, but there are problems with using it.

First, it's still a work in progress. I'm sure he'll master it completely. Most likely with the "Key" that Jiraiya is sending Naruto, but I see the next version of the Rasenshuriken as a last-use weapon. The sort of trump card that ends up killing Naruto or at least puts him in a coma.

Second, if Naruto uses it too much, he'll die. The first time he used in battle, it took longer than usual for him to heal his right arm. What the Rasenshuriken does is that it strikes the nucleii of every cell on the target area, killing each cell completely. The problem is that it also affects Naruto as well. Metaphorically speaking, Naruto is holding a nuclear bomb in his hands and the radiation is burning him just as much as it is his opponent. The microscopic "stingers" of the Rasenshuriken shoots out at random but precise directions and ultimately strikes the core of whatever cell it needs to hit like a heat-seeking missile.

Lastly, Luffy has the brute strength to finish battles in a short durations of time. Most of his attacks don't need too much cooldown or need that much buildup. He activate Gear Second in about a minute. He can activate Gear Third just by biting his finger and blowing into it. There's a minor side effect in using Gear Third, but that shouldn't affect anything. Naruto should be knocked unconscious for the count if he gets hit by Luffy's Gear Third attack mainly because the force of impact is like being hit by a speeding train.

Basically, Naruto can run out of chakra easily. He doesn't want to tap into the Kyuubi chakra. He wants to use his own chakra to power his attacks. The more he taps into the Kyuubi, the more likely the Kyuubi will come out.

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basilisk888 Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: death and life again Posts: 446 Thanks: 7 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts Credits: 12,561	Re: Monkey D. Luffy vs. Naruto Uzamaki that would be a fun battle to watch ^^ yes most likely rubber man would win but you underesimate the power of the rasanga also the power of the nine tailed fox ^.^ (and will naruto make the new jutsu in time 0.0) it would be fun but luffy would most likely win >.< __________________ can you see me? I am always here.
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basilisk888 Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: death and life again Posts: 446 Thanks: 7 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts Credits: 12,561	Re: Monkey D. Luffy vs. Naruto Uzamaki look up on you-tube "demon fox coak for naruto" you'll see that long range attacks are no problem for naruto... (fox mode >.<) -"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8C6JfhmrK0&feature=related" __________________ can you see me? I am always here. Last edited by basilisk888; Apr 25, 2008 at 03:39 AM.
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basilisk888 Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: death and life again Posts: 446 Thanks: 7 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts Credits: 12,561	Re: Monkey D. Luffy vs. Naruto Uzamaki I think luffy would win also but there is one thing... look at narutos fight with orotimaru (or wat ever) well he was only useing 4 tails... >.< __________________ can you see me? I am always here.
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