
Originally Posted by
Brandon Grave Heat
well that would be interresting to see if the polt that the code greass anime really come ture, it would more like happen in america frist then Japan, Since America is fightting itslef more then helping out another country..
America was already under the control of Brittianna for some time. the america we know doesn't exist. why? basically, the american war of indepence didn't happen, because when brittianna lost control of england they fled to the new world and eventually it became the new motherland.
code geass's world is an alternate verison of our world. ok here is a little code geass history based on ours. was searching through forums and well found this. sorry if it seems choppy gathered my info from different sorces. i placed it spoilers to make it easier to read and to not strech the thread.
the beginning of britannia
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this was from the first DVD.
01: The Foundation of Britannia, Part the First
Lelouch: Thus went the first part.
Suzaku: ...You're the same as ever, Lelouch. But I think nobody understands what you meant with just 'thus'?
Lelouch: I have no business with people who can't understand. Only those prepared to learn are allowed to learn!
Suzaku: While I'm not so sure about saying Zero-like things... Oh, but on that point, you've always been easily influenced as a kid, right? I remember how you emulated this Tokusatsu hero---
Lelouch: S, shut up with that ancient history!
Suzaku: But I thought we're talking about history today? If we don't talk about the past, nothing can begin.
Lelouch: Ack..... If you're going to pep talk me, I'm leaving.
Suzaku: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'll pay attention. Lelouch-Sensei.
Lelouch: Good. All right, maybe this is a little fast, but. Do you know when the Britannian Empire was founded, Suzaku?
Suzaku: Of course. The current year is 2017 ATB, so it's 2017 years ago.
Lelouch: So sorry you're wrong.
Suzaku: Huh? But, ATB--- 'Ascension Throne Britannia', isn't that 'the foundation of Britannia'?
Lelouch: Aha, seems you did your homework. Well done, well done.
Suzaku: It's just common sense. Anyway, I had to do some studying for the Honorary Britannian admission test, too.
Lelouch: Then, what about the foundation?
Suzaku: If I remember right...something about the time Julius Caesar tried to invade Britannia being the trigger, I guess, but...
Lelouch: Correct. A Celtic king stood against them, and from him began the line of the Britannian Royal Family. He won independence from the Romans, and was crowned king---though I suppose the correct way to put it would be 'chieftain of all tribes'. The count started in that same year. ...So, what's the name of that king?
Suzaku: Um..........I give up?
Lelouch: Oi, Suzaku! Can't you even get that into your head!? That’s going to be on the next test!?
Suzaku: Um, see, I was busy with work...uh.
Lelouch: Then look it up before the next time. Okay? We'll continue in Part the Second!
as silly as the conversation is intended to be, it is clear that the timeline of Code Geass begins at around 55 to 54 B.C.They don’t give us a name for the Celtic king/chieftain, but this does mark the beginning of Throne Britannia.
Britain does not become a Roman Province, an absolute monarchy is established, and the Celtic tribes are unified. The Roman and Sub-Roman periods of Britain’s history are effectively eliminated, because of the obvious lack of Roman presence and influence.
failure of american war of independence
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if u look at the map shown in episode 2.
Well, based on the map shown when Britannia invaded Japan, they definitely hold the North American continent and Hawaii. Australia and New Zealand and possibly South Africa and India. The British Empire of this world at it's height plus, North America. which most likely means the American war of independence did not occur or it failed.
for the longest time i thought, due to this map, the empire was american empire. but that is wrong, the empire is british, despite Britain not under their control.
Why doesn't brittianna control england?
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from episode 12
"Due to the loss of the Battle of Trafalgar...Queen Elizabeth III found herself surrounded at Edinburgh by revolutionists, with the help of the Britannian Colony America, which is now called..."
So it seems that the Spanish/French maintained naval superiority (Napoleon would've been in control at the time and probably started an invasion of England) and thus forced the British to escape to the new world. Hence, America became the new motherland but that's just a guess.
more history of brittianna/ the heirarchy of brittianna
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episode 7 suzaku's textbook
"... of Henry IX, son of the great [Elizabeth ?]... flourished as never before.
While other European countries stagnated assailed by waves of people's revolutions and parliamentarization, England held fast to absolute monarchy, and saw continued development through the reigns of King Henry X and Edward VI thanks to the wealth produced by the New World."
The textbook itself goes on to mention kings such as Henry X and Edward VI, the former of which is fictional and the latter of which died at age sixteen. If the monarchy following the Wars of the Roses remains unaltered from our own timeline, then Henry VIII of the Geass timeline would be the same as the Henry VIII of our own. The information points to this conclusion because of the existence of Edward VI, whose history is only altered that he lived to reign rather than having died young.
Henry IX and X could then be assumed to be heirs of either Catherine of Aragon or Anne Boleyn, or one from each. They can also be speculated to be the children of these marriages that did not survive into adulthood, and Geass history merely rewrote them as Henry IX and Henry X. Edward VI was the heir to the throne from Jane Seymour, and Geass rewrites history so that he lives and has a prosperous reign.
Aside from an altered family tree for the Tudor family, the textbook mentions that the English absolute monarchy remained as such, while the rest of Europe was in the midst of revolution and “parliamentarization”. This is also a far departure from our timeline in that Britain was actually one of the first countries to have a system of parliament, dating back officially to Henry III. Take note however, that royal supremacy was restored at about the time Henry VIII came to the throne, and the parliament behaved submissively under his rule. Perhaps the parliament was dissolved by the king? Or did it never exist at all? I’ll leave it to the Geass writers to tell us that.
Furthermore, as much as the textbook makes Britannia superior for maintaining order and prosperity at the time, it outlines the foundations of what many of us might believe to be the EU, similar to our own European Union of today. Why would this version of Europe become the EU? Europe at this point in history was a collection of various monarchies in a great struggle to control colonization. Geass history paints the picture so that the rest of Europe was more politically progressive than Britain, which is the stark opposite of how it was in ours.
The text mentions the New World, which Western culture knows as the Americas during the Age of Discovery. We can then assume that Britain as this point is in control of colonies at this time, similar to how the British Empire also began colonization at this period of history. We know by history of the colonies of Newfoundland, the Thirteen Colonies comprising the original United States, Canada’s Atlantic Provinces, and Britain’s claims to the Caribbean at Barbados and Jamaica. There are also the various colonies controlled by other countries of Europe, but there are far too many for me to list.
History differences: The altered line of kings (Henry IX, Henry X, Edward VI), less progressive Britain and the absence of Parliament in Brittanian history, and a more progressive Europe earlier in history.
History similarities: Colonization continues for both Britain and Europe.
World war II in code geass
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A note on episode 9...Cornelia said fighting had flared up with the EU at a place called El Alamein. This means CG world's version of WWII is going on at that time.
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