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Old Aug 11, 2007, 05:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: ed vs. alphonse

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The manga confirms that Al is vastly superior to Ed in hand-to-hand combat.
Probably due to his body (or lack of it).
Though physical strength has little to do with coming out on top in a battle that involves proffesional alchemy. All Ed would have to do is distance himself from Al to avoid physical contact and then transmute the surrounding earth into sand, and due to the immense weight of the armor Al is bound to this would seriously slow him down or completely imobilize him assuming this battle takes place on dirt; therefore taking away his physical advantage. And since Al can't use alchemy without a transmutation cirlce and you can't draw a circle in the sand there also goes his alchemic abilities. Winner; Ed. In the very first episode of the anime series Father Cornelo uses the exact same trick to immobilize Al during the battle between himself and Ed. This also solves the problem of neutralizing Al without killing him which some on this thread seem to assume would have to be done to "win".
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Old Aug 11, 2007, 07:27 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old Aug 11, 2007, 10:13 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: ed vs. alphonse

Hmm, interesting. I never knew for sure that Al managed to replicate Ed's special ability as I've never read the manga, though I've seen most of the anime. I was always wondering why Al wasn't able to use alchemy without a circle since he had also seen the gate after the brother's failed resurrection. Though this is explained by Al elaborating how the last thing he remembered after the "rebound" was his brother reaching for him as his body was being sucked inside the gate in the anime and is never able to recover what exactly happend until he gets his full body back (Conqueror of Shamballa).

And today I just started reading up on the second [volume] of the manga having finished the first yesterday so that I could get the "full" story, since I heard that the manga and anime differentiated greatly from eachother. Anyways I think it could be true about Al being better than Ed at alchemy once he regains his memory of what happened inside the Gate of Truth. It's logical to assume that he would have been shown a lot more than Ed because he "payed" with is entire body compared to Ed's arm (as you said). I think this theory is proven in the movie Conqueror of Shamballa as Al is somehow able to temporarily transfer multiple portions of his soul into suits of armor after being able to recall his full experience of the failed resurrection; something Ed could never do. Perhaps he is able to do this due to being shown more than Ed whilst inside the Gate of Truth?

Taking that into consideration I would have to tip the scales of victory in Al's direction.
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Old Sep 20, 2007, 01:04 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: ed vs. alphonse

you know, i don't think it mattters much. the only fight they ever get into is an argument in one of the early episodes about the realness of al's memories. it won't happen. they spar alot though, and al usually wins.
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Re: ed vs. alphonse

Welllll I dont see when those two would ever fight each other to the death but Ed can use whatever he needs to kill Al... but Al does have superoir strength which can over power anyone. So it could possibly be a draw.
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Re: ed vs. alphonse

It always said in the anime that Ed could never beat alphonse in a fight! So in thos case i would think that alphonse would win!
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Re: ed vs. alphonse

Al would win because he usally thinks befor he acts. Ed? not to sure about.
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Re: ed vs. alphonse

if they ever do get in a fight i think ed will win because he is stronger and al is kinda girly
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Re: ed vs. alphonse

i seriously think they would NEVER get in a fight. there to good of friends and brothers to get in a fight. they both have an equal chance and they both have there advantages...theres so cool.
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Re: ed vs. alphonse

Edward would, hands down.

He is the stronger of the two. He knows more (alchemy wise). He knows more secrets, because he has seen the door on more than one occasion. He has a stronger will. Not to say that Alphose's will isn't strong, but Edward's is stronger.

If it were a friendly see who's better battle, Edward would win easily.

If it came down to a battle to the death, Alphonse lacks the fortitude to go the distance against Edward. Edward would go to any length to keep from killing his brother, even to the point of hurting him (really hurting him) to stop the battle.

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Just a note. I believe Alponse never saw the inside of the gate, because Edward fixed her soul to the suit of armor immediately. Where as Edward saw it, because he was almost pulled in, and he opened it again later. He was shown "everything" about alchemy through those moments. He in a sense became connected with the very essence of alchemy. That is why he is able to do alchemy without a circle. That is why he is able to do alchemy that other alchemist could never attempt. He would only grow stronger as he aged.
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Re: ed vs. alphonse

THey did fight one time but i think ed would win hes had more fights he has seen and done more and alphonse is now human so i think he would lose but if he was the metal guy i think if they fought for real alphonse would win.
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