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Old Sep 02, 2007, 12:22 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Opening quote by Alphonse Elric

"Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return."
i think it depends because most things in life can't be taken without giving sacrifices of different types as a price yet on the other hand there's things that don't abide to this rule such as love as an example when a baby is born in a family the baby is looked after very well because of human instincts that stick the parents willingly to love their sons and to take care of them but when that baby grows up and become a man who repays his parents for their kindness towards him it's not their love that made him that way but the way they brought him up and built his characteristics personality whether he's living in a bad environment inside or outside his house or not
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Old Dec 20, 2007, 11:51 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Opening quote by Alphonse Elric

but if you do bad things good things don't always come back to you. Like what goes around comes around.Like if your disrespectfull to someone their gonna be disrespectful to you.

And vise versa
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Old Dec 29, 2007, 03:44 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Opening quote by Alphonse Elric

Some that happens some times and some other times you just get lucky you know what i mean.
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Old Jan 04, 2008, 08:01 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Opening quote by Alphonse Elric

yes sometimes you just get lucky. Say if you do a bad thing something good might come your way by mistake
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Old Feb 19, 2008, 02:57 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Opening quote by Alphonse Elric

that quote is so true
every where you go you have to give something to get something.
it dosent matter where you are in the world that rule will always follow
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Old Feb 19, 2008, 03:53 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Re: Opening quote by Alphonse Elric

well the main reason he makes the quote is because its the most important rule of alchemy because they have to have something to transmute in order to get what they want
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Re: Opening quote by Alphonse Elric

but it is a true statement in this world. humakind can not gain anything without giving something in return to gain something of equal value must be lost this is the law of equivalant exchange. you have to give something to gain something even if you get a gift you still did something to earn that gift just like how you would give a gift to a friend am I right? without this being true who would do anything in this world to make it better? everything comes at a cost.
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Re: Opening quote by Alphonse Elric

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but it is a true statement in this world. humakind can not gain anything without giving something in return to gain something of equal value must be lost this is the law of equivalant exchange. you have to give something to gain something even if you get a gift you still did something to earn that gift just like how you would give a gift to a friend am I right? without this being true who would do anything in this world to make it better? everything comes at a cost.
i completely agree with u because even if u dont realize it something was either given up previously or will be given up later and for gifts to a friend it makes sense because i dont think that if u dont know a person u wouldnt give them any kind of gift so basicly u give them a gift in return for being a friend
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Re: Opening quote by Alphonse Elric

that's the general rule in life .. but there's always the exceptions that we call "someone's fate" ... you there get things you didn't pay their "price" (in the meaning) and on the other hand you have to pay things that you didn't benefit anything in return for ... but i can say this rule applies to human dealing ways or ways of acceptance in most shapes and forms ...
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Re: Opening quote by Alphonse Elric

I agree with most people here. Most of the time in life, you really can't get anything without giving something in return. That aplys to everyday life, like if you want something from the store, you gotta give money to get it. But, sometimes, as Lich said, there are exceptions, also talked about in FMA. Sometimes we only take, sometimes all we do is give. But, most of the time, "Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return" applys.
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Re: Opening quote by Alphonse Elric

your forgeting the fact that people have diferent pasts and expieriences those can also be concidard payment like how people going though pain can eventually exchange these problems for better times. so actually everything that happens deals with equivalance.
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