The philosopher's stone - Page 2

hyuuga13 · Jan 08, 2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kurapika

I think it may be a stone or crystal type but the fakes are just a liquid that amplifies your power

in a sense that is correct to me. but later on in the series al somehow ends up becoming the philosphers stone, and for some reason you still have the equivalent exchange rule. cuz shou tucker used al to try and give "nina" a soul and failed. the after effects of that were a sizable amount of al's armor on the side was missing. the stone has to be solid in some way whereas the fakes were liquid until they hit oxygen.(i think not to sure of that point)

Sazzy · Jan 12, 2008, 03:52 PM

I think its only in the shape of a stone while it is still in the designing state. Because you never get to see the fully created stone, because it has been merged with Al and when you see inside of Al, its like a mist that is in his body. Then as it is used it also takes part of what it has been stored in, that is why I think it erodes part of Al's amour. like the equivalent exchange as hyuuga13 said.

*atomik_sprout* · Jan 13, 2008, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sazzy

I think its only in the shape of a stone while it is still in the designing state. Because you never get to see the fully created stone, because it has been merged with Al and when you see inside of Al, its like a mist that is in his body. Then as it is used it also takes part of what it has been stored in, that is why I think it erodes part of Al's amour. like the equivalent exchange as hyuuga13 said.

Much agreed. I think the Philosopher's stone is just something that's always been in the prototype stage. Even Dante couldn't use it without loosing parts of her physical self, plus the rules of equivalent exchange were always in effect--like some here have said.

Did you know that alchemists ("real" alchemists, the ones I read about in books) believe there really is a Philosopher's stone? No lie! They even talk about being able to transmute from nothing. I read about it in an alchemy book. I have the book still and once I clean my room and find it, I'll scan the page I read that info at. ^_^

Sazzy · Jan 13, 2008, 09:05 AM

Yeha, isn't it part in science about the progression from a solid to gas state. I think that is linked in with the Philosophers stone. And besides, what can you really do to a stone in a stone state?? Its just a like a rock, yet when it has been altered to a gas/mist state is has better properties. I hope that makes sense.

Atomik - oooooo really?? I wouldn't mind looking into that some time.

Sakura Uchiha · Feb 19, 2008, 04:42 PM

I dont know really if it is a stone.
I know that Alphones done gets turned into the stone kinda

xsasukeuchiha · Feb 19, 2008, 04:46 PM

well from what ive seen is when its created its a kind of liquid/solid because it still has the shape of the stone but it has the properties of a liquid

rentonthurston27 · Feb 19, 2008, 04:53 PM

there is more than one type of philosiphers stone one the fake that is like a liquid/solid and the true stone that is a stone as shown when donte and hoenhiem made the stone both stones can amplifies alchemic reactions but the red stone aka the fake will backfire after a while the original only slowly loses power.

xsasukeuchiha · Feb 19, 2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rentonthurston27

there is more than one type of philosiphers stone one the fake that is like a liquid/solid and the true stone that is a stone as shown when donte and hoenhiem made the stone both stones can amplifies alchemic reactions but the red stone aka the fake will backfire after a while the original only slowly loses power.

But dont the fake ones only backfire for humans because the hommoculli use them with apparently no side effects but when the priest tried to use it it broke and then messed up his arm pretty bad

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Sazzy Member of 22 yr old Club Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In my imagination restricted by British Society! Posts: 1,723 Thanks: 4 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts Credits: 26,861	Re: The philosopher's stone I think its only in the shape of a stone while it is still in the designing state. Because you never get to see the fully created stone, because it has been merged with Al and when you see inside of Al, its like a mist that is in his body. Then as it is used it also takes part of what it has been stored in, that is why I think it erodes part of Al's amour. like the equivalent exchange as hyuuga13 said. __________________ FAVOURITE THREADS EXPLAIN why, or risk an infraction. Click userbar, Please join ^_^
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Sazzy Member of 22 yr old Club Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In my imagination restricted by British Society! Posts: 1,723 Thanks: 4 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts Credits: 26,861	Re: The philosopher's stone Yeha, isn't it part in science about the progression from a solid to gas state. I think that is linked in with the Philosophers stone. And besides, what can you really do to a stone in a stone state?? Its just a like a rock, yet when it has been altered to a gas/mist state is has better properties. I hope that makes sense. Atomik - oooooo really?? I wouldn't mind looking into that some time. __________________ FAVOURITE THREADS EXPLAIN why, or risk an infraction. Click userbar, Please join ^_^
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rentonthurston27 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: gekko state Posts: 77 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Credits: 2,431	Re: The philosopher's stone there is more than one type of philosiphers stone one the fake that is like a liquid/solid and the true stone that is a stone as shown when donte and hoenhiem made the stone both stones can amplifies alchemic reactions but the red stone aka the fake will backfire after a while the original only slowly loses power. __________________ here is a bit of info you all should know. Dont beg for things do it yourself or else you wont get anything. dont let the little details run your life. when your down just keep on moving.
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